Ignace policy change

The upcoming BJ tourney Ignace will pay a 20$ cash back rather than the usual 45$. In order to get an extra $30 you must put in at least 2 hours of table BJ play and be rated for it. That will make a total of 50$.

The drinks are now $1.25 not the .50 of the past. Food coupons are 10$ the first day and 14$ each for 2 days buffet and 7$ each for the breakfast for 2 days.

Creeping Panther

 

Hi Monkeysystem

It must be BJ rated table play, nothing else will count.

Why do you not like the BJ there?? The 6d is as good as you can find anywhere, maybe the best in the US, and the DD can be very fine too.

Creeping Panther.

 

I believe they have the same (or similar) deal for slot/VP players, after accumulating "X" number of points.
I'll have to check when I have more time tomorrow, will report back.

Monkeysystem isn't the only one who would rather bang away on those 9/6 JoB's instead of playing BJ.

 

I played the slot

tourney this weekend and had to put in time on slots, but VP counted too, no table games added to the points, however.

I had a good time on the 9/6 vp and made some money on them and did get the points for me and the wife to get $50 each back for playing in the tourney.

The casino wants MORE action than they have been getting out of many tourney players.

As far as the 9/6 it is a great game but a skilled AP can play BJ at a MUCH higher edge over the house than one may get on the VP machine you wrote about. The VP is still only a break even taking into consideration the comps.



Creeping Panther.

 

I'll concede your point about the house advantage for the VP vs. their BJ. But I really dislike casino BJ (not tournaments, of course), so that's my choice.

Beside, even on those old clunker JoB's they've got, I can run $3K/hour in action through them, and that oughtta make the house happy. If they'd get newer machines that aren't so balky, $5K/hour is pretty easy to do.

 

Lnut

The VP is a much more relaxing game, no doubt about it and alot of fun!

I have often likened serious AP BJ play as becoming a "BJ WARRIOR" in the most literal sense....white knuckle, A-Hole pukering and mind streching action that will give you all the Adrenalin Rushes you can handle....and alot of drama.

Creeping Panther

 

Exactly!!! And we're going up there to relax, only getting serious during the tournament play.

Look at it this way - I won't be hogging a seat at a BJ table, and vice-versa with you and the JoB's when we want to sit down. Works out great!!

 

The problem with their BJ

If all players bust, the dealer discards his hole card without showing it. It only comes into play very much in a heads-up game or with just a couple players, but I really don't like it.

 

Jonny Mr.21

Yes that can be an irritation but there are ways to deal with that especially in a Hdup game.

They do allow you to do other things that makes up for that anti-counter move.

Creeping Panther

 

CP, would you elaborate on how you deal with it? I have read that you should just ignore the missing card as though it were behind the cut card. I just find it to be an in-your-face policy about how badly they want to beat the player.

As far as the rest of the rules, I agree, that they are very good, and the table minimums are low. My win rate there isn't as high as I would expect, but I haven't played all that many hours there.

 

Missed The Boat

Apparently, I've been missing the boat here for a long time. My first time at St. Ignace I walked past BJ tables and noticed "Northern Nevada rules" (double down on 9, 10, or 11 ONLY). For this reason, I kept walking and started playing VP and have been ever since!
Creeping Panther, or someone else please enlighten me on current rules and playing "conditions" for BJ
Thanks in advance!

Billy C

 

Good Six Deck Rules

The last report I saw has 6-deck with dealer standing on soft 17, double after split, double after split aces, resplit aces, and late surrender. These are great rules. The negative was that penetration was about one and three-fourths decks cut off.

 

Both Right!

The 6D is the best in the midwest except for the penetration. Occasionally you will find a dealer that only cuts 1D, but it is uncommon.

The 2D rules suck and are as Billy C describe plus, no DAS. But, I have seen them deal this pretty deep. Reminds of one of my favorite dealer sayings, "now don't you guys take too many hits or I run out of cards". And I have been at a table that has run out of cards during the deal, several times. Once here. It is pretty common to get 80% on the DD game.

Off course with the low table limits, they will never get hit by any big counting team though.

Pill

 

You are right

This does not effect the house advantage of the game at all, it only reduces the penetration and then it probably only hurts you if you are playing heads up because of the increase frequency at which it happens.

Don't let it bother you, it is not worth it.

Pill

 

Johny Mr.21

It IS serious when there are cards you cannot see after the original burn card! With all respect to Mr. Pill, the "Greatest Tourney Player East of the Mississippi", it is something to worry about.

No, I don't believe they "badly want to beat the player", not at all, it is just an old policy they hang on to.

You are right, treat it as a card unseen, BUT there are tactics to deal with it when you desire to do so, nothing that needs to be spelled out here on the net....however.

Creeping Panther.

 

Billy C.

Billy See,

Actually dd on 10 11 only, soft or hard. Look, s-17, Surrender, split 4 hands, and a few *other* things *highly* prized. Sure no das or dospa or rsa. BUT still a great game for certain players with the Skillz and no das and d10-11 only,, do lessen variance and RR....alot of give and take in the ways to evaluate things.

You have to keep your eyes open as to real time conditions and keep the mouth zipped, when you peruse the tables.

Creeping Panther

 

Mr Mosses

Keep your eyes open, you may be surprised. This is as good a rules as you can find "anywhere" on the 6d, great game!!

Have at it! WHAT A Game.

Creeping Panther

 

Monkey System come on!

A final consideration is I don't want to risk having my live BJ play scrutinized by casinos whose tournaments I enjoy. In the past I've compromised by spreading only 4 or 5:1 in 6D or 2:1 in DD, just to play even with them. Casinos that don't offer tournaments get the full Monkeysystem. :whip: :laugh:[/QUOTE]

I know you cannot be serious! Do you really think they will then not allow you to play in a tourney when they see your great AP Skillz? You gots to be a "BJ WARRIOR" Bro' and have at it. Never hold back if you feel the desire to really Take it to em! Fear not. (Nothing against your 9/6, I may run a few K through myself).

If you are there at the next tourney and I am still around I will make you the same offer I made the Great Schultzyy....and can you imagine what that may be?? If not give the Great one, Schultzyy an email.

Creeping Panther