30K Home Run Blackjack Tournament - Orleans Casino - Las Vegas, NV

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  1. Cadillac Tim

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  2. Cadillac Tim

    Cadillac Tim Active Member

    What level of betting would be required at the blackjack tables to get invited to the Orleans tournament, Billy C. I know you play video poker, but I'm curious on blackjack play what they would look for?
     
  3. Billy C

    Billy C Top Member

    I can't answer your question. Don't think I've ever played a hand of BJ there (other than tourney play). Hopefully, either Rookie 789, Dakota, (others?) will chime in with an answer for you.
     
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  4. Dakota

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    For an invitation to the Orleans tournament, a host had indicated they expect 4 hours of play daily at an average bet of $100. All too many casinos use that terminology, but for me that's too general because they never specify at what game. We can assume that it's blackjack, which would give a Theo (EP) of about 275 per day. You get even less credit for pai gow poker, but more for roulette. So, for room included, I generally aim for a trip Theo of 500 or so.
     
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  5. Cadillac Tim

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    Thanks Billy C and Dakota
     
  6. noman

    noman Top Member

    Cadillac:
    I hadn't played Orleans in years. Went thru Vegas within the last year. Played VP and a little BJ. Not much. Am getting invites. Also helps it's a Boyd's. So any play on a B Connected card will get offers. As seems to be a traditional Casino strategy: If you're a new player, you don't need much action to get on the mailing list. The more you play at a place, the higher your participation has to be to continue to get (comps?) offers. Can say the same for Golden Nugget. Only took a few hours VP play one night to get invites for BJ tourney.
     
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  7. Cadillac Tim

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    Thanks NoMan! I'd love to get invited to the Orleans and Golden Nugget. I played in GN last year once, very pricy but nice prize money for that one. I'd love to play in more of them. I'm going to the Westgate tourney with Jonny and Monkey System (hopefully others) in June. Hopefully I play some at one or both and see what happens.
     
  8. The_Professional

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    I can give you some heads up on Westgate. I played the last one in March. It is heavily favoring casino hi rollers in terms of wild card drawings. In fact there are 18 places in the semi final, 6 of them (1/3) are wild card drawings. Every 250 points of casino play give you 1 ticket for drawing. So, some players had literally hundreds of tickets. The other thing there is that you can buy (and every one does) for $50 a "mulligan" chip, that allows you to replace your last dealt card with the next card of the shoe. You can buy this chip in every round if you wish but if not used in one round, you can use it in the next round. This makes the price of the tournament more than advertised. This fact together with wild-card bias made me hesitant to play there again.
     
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  9. noman

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    For your info Blue Chip in Michigan City is a Boyd's. Since there's no FourWinds in May, you might take advantage of the time to earn status for Boyds Orleans. And I had as I said limited play at Nugget and got invites
     
  10. noman

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    So. Monkey, Cadillac, Johnny. in particular, note the PROS comments. Sound advice from experts in the past was to buy the chip. Of the high rollers, beware the rules of play. Westgate(nee Hilton) offered surrender. Regardless of high roller edge, wild card opportunity is better than most. Would check out and confirm accepted hand signals for hit, stay and surrender. Does anyone know if payout is guaranteed? Or based on entries?
     
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  11. The_Professional

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    Surrender is a verbal signal. I am pretty sure, at least for the past one, that payout is not based on entries (i.e, guaranteed). The wild card opportunity, in terms of number spots, is "higher" than most, I agree. However, it is not better for the skilled player who does not regularly play in the casino. For that player, any spot going to wild-card is a disadvantage.
     
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  12. Dakota

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    Just to clarify... at the Westgate tournament the "Mulligan" is a one-time purchase ($50) and is valid for every round in the tournament (including the final table). One use per round. If it is not used in a particular round, it is still usable in the following rounds. Also, it can be used (1) to replace either of the first 2 cards dealt or (2) the last drawn hit card. One Re-Buy @ $100 is available if eliminated from the first round (and 1 additional Wild Card entry is given for the drawing). Additional Wild Card entries are given for every 250 theoretical points (EP) earned all day Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
     
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  13. The_Professional

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    Unless the rules have changed, you can buy a "Mulligan" for every round if you wish. For example, if you used it in first round, you can buy another one for round 2 etc. Because everyone buys it, you must have one to be able to compete.
    The costs can then add up to potentially 5 X50 +$250.
     
  14. Dakota

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    You only need to buy a "Mulligan" one time and it is good throughout the tournament.
     
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  15. noman

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    TY for reply. I would argue though that skilled player has advantage over high roller. That's what started this" whole thing" with wong and Curtis and the boys getting into these "reward events" for the privileged players. That wild card entrant is just another player and maybe you, if thing didn't work out in earlier rounds. If it is you, your skill gives you advantage. Most high rollers are just that...high rollers. They had their fun and move on.
     
  16. noman

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    Is that a FACT? One buy carries over?
     
  17. Dakota

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  18. The_Professional

    The_Professional Active Member

    I think we referring to two things. The "Mulligan" can carryover, so if not used, you do not need to buy another one. However, if it is used in the first round for example, you can go the second round without one or buy another one. This goes on through the final. So potentially you can buy up to 5 Mulligans if you keep using them, one per round.
     
  19. Dakota

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    I guess a dedicated thread was never started for the Westgate tournament. To clarify, all of my previous comments are regarding the Westgate tournament, June 12-14.
     
  20. Dakota

    Dakota Top Member

    Regarding Westgate... Even if the "Mulligan" is used in a round, it is still valid for future rounds.
     
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