Hi all Just finally got home after being away for 6 weeks and found this in my inbox from Sun Casino In Monte Carlo they still have sat qualifying rounds next few weeks on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays which get you into the next rounds believe Prize pool is 500,000 euros Have copied the rules sent to me below, is similar to UBT style with secret bets and eliminations ( thought this was infringement of copyright?) although if like last one i played here has no surrender SUN CASINO SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS TOURNAMENT TEAM 1 RULES FOR BLACK JACK SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS Admission to the qualifying rounds in Monte Carlo on November 22 nd and 23rd, 2007, with a view to taking part in the final of the International Black Jack Tournament to be held on December 8, 2007 at the Sun Casino, will be gained by way of satellite tournaments which will be organized at the Sun Casino every Thursday, Friday and Saturday, beginning Thursday, September 6, 2007 and lasting 11 weeks. The satellite tournaments will thus qualify 45 people by way of eliminatory events over 2 rounds. Monegasque nationals are not authorized to take part in these tournaments. Persons who are officially banned from entering Casinos or from gaming activities are likewise barred from entering the tournaments. The same applies to minors under 18 years of age. Qualification passes and passes giving access to the final are nominative and nontransferable. Any person wishing to take part in the first round of the satellite tournaments must register with the cashier at Sun Casino and pay an entrance fee, or stake, of €300. The player may then choose the day and time of his or her participation subject to availability. A coupon will be delivered, which must be presented for that person to take his or her place. The admission fee for satellite tournaments is €300 for the first entry and the first reentry. Any additional re-entry thereafter will require an admission fee of €500. Only those players already accredited by the Société des Bains de Mer may pay their admission fee by cheque. The number of re-entries is unlimited. Entries will close 1 hour prior to the opening time set for each table in the satellite tournament. No late arrival will be tolerated. Any person arriving late will lose his or her place and will be required to pay a new entry fee or stake, and enter at another time if he or she so wishes. This will count as an additional entry. The super satellite tables for the 1st and 2nd rounds will be playing with 5 to 7 players. Places will be selected at random, drawing from a deck of 52 cards; the player drawing the highest card will occupy the first seat next to the shoe, the next highest the second seat and so forth until the 7 th seat. The Button (first seat marker) will also be drawn at random using a deck of 52 cards; the highest card will be given the Button. Thereafter and up to the 30 th hand and during tie-breaks (if required), the Button will move clock-wise around the table. SUN CASINO SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS TOURNAMENT TEAM 2 Once settled in their seats and once the Button has been placed on the table, each player will receive €5,000 in tournament chips, a secret stake card and a pen. Each player will have 30 seconds in which to place his or her stake. The minimum stake is €100, the maximum stake is €2,500. All bets must be multiples of €100. Should a player wish to bet “all in” (i.e. stake all his or her chips), the stake may comprise fractions of €100. Should a player overrun the time allowed to bet, the Floorman will issue a reminder of the rules and grant an extra 10 seconds. Beyond that time the player will be obliged to bet the table’s minimum stake. Should a player systematically place late bets and repeatedly receive reminders, the Tournament’s Management Committee shall reserve the right to exclude him or her from the table.
continued from previous thread: A secret stake does not entitle a player to additional betting time. A player may bet one secret stake only. A secret stake may not exceed the number of chips a player has on the table.The first and second rounds of satellite tournaments will be played over 30 hands. A player may bet in one box only and must place his or her bet in the box designed for that purpose directly in front of him. Each player’s chips must remain visible on the table. Chips cannot be transferred from one player to another. No arrangement is possible between players. Failure to follow these rules will lead to expulsion from the table and disqualification from the tournament. The official language of the tournament is French. No visual or verbal exchange will be allowed between spectators and players. No assistance, in whatsoever form, will be authorized at the table. Any spectator attracting attention or making comments about the game will be asked to leave the playing area. Players are not entitled to converse about game strategy or bets. Each player is responsible for his or her game and shall clearly indicate to the croupier his or her next move (draw or hold). Each player will have 30 seconds to make his or her choice; once this time is up, the player will automatically hold (not draw another card). Any player who fails to abide by the tournament rules or by the rules applicable to the Casinos of Monte Carlo, or who turns aggressive towards the personnel or another player, may be expelled if so decided by the Tournament’s Management Committee. SUN CASINO SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS TOURNAMENT TEAM 3 Any dispute must be settled at the tournament table. In every case, the decision taken by the Tournament’s Management Committee shall prevail. Whenever a player runs out of chips, he or she is eliminated from the game. At the 8th, 16th and 25th hands, the player (or players) with the least number of chips will be eliminated. No second buy-in (new stake) will be allowed. After the 30th hand, the player with the greatest number of chips will qualify to sit at the 2 nd round table and if he or she takes part in the 2nd round will receive a qualification pass for the Monte Carlo semi-finals. he croupier will not draw on a soft 17 (ace & 6) · The Surrender option is not authorized. · No double for less when doubling down. · A player may double down with the first 2 cards, whatever their value. · In the event of a split, a player may not stick with a single card. · In the event of a tie, a tie-break game will be played to find a winner. If at the 30th hand players are tied but have lost all their chips, a further $2,000 of tournament chips will be given for the tie-break to proceed and a winner to be found. · Tie-Break: the number of hands will be decided by the number of tied players; there will be 3 hands per tied player. No new buy-in will be possible and no secret bet allowed. · The rules and procedures in effect at Sun Casino shall apply to any situation not covered by the tournament rules. · The Tournament’s Management Committee reserves the possibility to cancel a session or part of a session if it feels that not enough players are present at the table. The players registered for the session in question will be invited to sit in at later sessions playing at the same level. · Any participant in this tournament who fails to comply with applicable rules or laws will be expelled from the tournament and will not be entitled to any prize, without such action incurring the responsibility of the Société des Bains de Mer. · The Tournament’s Management Committee reserves the right to alter or cancel the tournament at any time with no prior notice given. · The Tournament’s Management Committee reserves the right to disqualify any player at any time. SUN CASINO SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS TOURNAMENT TEAM 4 The minimum number of players shall be 4. · The registration fee shall be €1,500 per player. · Players must register with the Sun Casino cashier. · The tournament will be played in 1 round of 30 hands. · After the 30th hand, the player with the most chips will obtain a qualification pass for the Monte Carlo tournament days at the Sun Casino. · The rules governing satellite tournaments shall apply. · The rules and procedures in effect at the Sun Casino shall apply to any situation not covered by the rules of the tournament. SUN CASINO SATELLITE TOURNAMENTS TOURNAMENT TEAM 5 RANDOM DRAW FOR PLAYER SEATS It is understood that the first place allocated at the table will be the seat closest to the shoe. The other seats will then be allocated clockwise. The croupier mixes the cards. The croupier will then shuffle the pack in Ultimate Poker Texas Hold ‘Em style (2 shuffles followed by a ruffle then by one further shuffle). The croupier then spreads the cards face downwards (circle spread) and asks players to choose one card and turn it over. Cards must remain on the table. Players take up their positions from the highest card downwards, from the left of the Croupier to the right. Turned over cards will be burnt. RANDOM DRAW FOR THE BUTTON Once the players have settled into their respective seats, they will again choose a card from the pack in a circle spread and turn it over in front of them. The player with the highest card receives the button. FOR THE RECORD
Hi bjmace, can you post a link of the Sun Casino or can you send me your invitation to my PM. Perhaps we meet in MC.
always great to meet other players here is link to casino and the event http://en.montecarloresort.com/!European-Black-Jack-Tour-2007,577!.html Phone : +377 98 06 12 12 I'm still working out where i will be and when to see if i can go to this again, There is also Austria and Barona all around the time of the semi finals of this, will PM you to let you know nearer the time,
for those looking for a starter in European tournaments below scheduled at Casino Vienna on 11th November with lower buy in It will be exciting at Casino Vienna on 11.11.2007 at 11.00. A prize pool of € 11,000 and exciting game accompanied by culinary delicacies are guaranteed. If you enjoy the classics among card games, don’t hesitate! This is how it works: Costs: Buy-in: € 110 (including brunch and beverages) Re-buy: € 100 (once before game 15) Second-chance round: € 50 Brunch for accompanying guests: € 25 Game: the game will be played simultaneously at several tables with all players starting with the same number of tournament chips. The winners and second-placed winner at every table will qualify directly for the next round; a re-buy is possible prior to game 15. All others will receive a second-chance in the form of a “second-chance round”. The semi-finals will be played over 28 hands. The top seven will end up at the final table. Finale: 28 coups will be played, the prize pool will be divided among the finalists. Our hall manager will be pleased to assist you with questions about the tournament: Tel: 01/ 512 48 36 - 21251 or Dec: 08.12.2007 16:00 - Velden Enjoy the fabulous tournament atmosphere at our Black Jack Tournament. 16:00: accreditation 17:00: tournament Buy-in: € 70 Re-buy: € 50 Expected prize money: € 7200 Tournament: All players will receive an equal number of tournament chips upon payment of the buy-in. Every player will have the possibility to buy in to the tournament a second time. Two players with the highest number of points per table will enter the next round (varies depending on the number of participants). Payments in each Austrian casino. We look forward to an exciting tournament. Casino Velden Tel. +43/4274/2064-20250 Fax +43/4274/2064-20220 velden@casinos.at
Thanks for letting us know about this So apparently there's a 'European Blackjack Tour'; who'd have thought it? I can hear the sound of the UBT lawyers sharpening their pencils. Presumably this is its first year? I was going to ask where Paris comes into the equation, but I took a look at the web site and found a link to the Paris venue, the 'Cercle Gaillon'. The information presented at both sites is awfully unclear. I'm totally confused. I'll try and make a summary of what I've gleaned from the web sites, pointing out the areas that seem particularly obscure to me. Monte Carlo Final: Dec. 8th. Semis: Nov 22nd,23rd. Satellites: thu,fri,sat for 11 weeks. €300 entry, €300 rebuy, €500 for further rebuys. Satellite is two rounds. First place from each round-1 table qualifies for round 2. Now what on earth does this mean .... "... and if he or she takes part in the 2nd round will receive a qualification pass for the Monte Carlo semi-finals." ? Do they mean if he or she wins the 2nd round? And how do they arrive at ... "The satellite tournamens will thus qualify 45 people by way of eliminatory events over 2 rounds." ? Since there are rebuys available, there's no knowing how many players will be in the second round. Presumably the winner of each 2nd-round table (how ever many there happen to be) must qualify for the semis. ?? VIP Tournaments: With a min. of four players, a Sit&Go can be arranged for €1500 entry. The winner "will obtain a qualification pass for the Monte Carlo tournament days at the Sun Casino". Presumably this means they will qualify for the semis, just as if they had done so via the satellites. It's not very clear, though. Paris 'Televised' Final: Dec 8th. (Presmuably at Monte Carlo, rather than a separate event) Semis: Dec 1st,2nd. (Appears to be the option of a direct buy-in for €3,160 ??) Satellites: Tuesdays - Sit&Go, 7 players, €500 'Freezeout'. Super-satellites, 14 players, €250 'Freezeout' Possibility of organising €100 satellites or €1000 4-player satellites. Quite how all that relates to qualifying (or if it even does) is unclear to me. In both cases there's no mention of the payout structure. It sounds like there's no money to be won before the Dec. 8th final, just qualification. Mace, I'm not posing all these questions expecting you to necessarily know the answsers, just to share my lack of understanding with everybody. But if you can shed some light on any of this then I'd certainly be grateful.
Most of what i get from them is just as unclear, I played and won a tournament there after winning a trip , I now get emails from them, Would also point out although officialy is french spoken tournament, they do speak English and where reasonably helpful, But format was different last time, on their main web page it says 500,000 euro's prize but no break down, Will speak to my host there and see if i can find out prize structure
Thanks. I think I read that the 500,000 is an estimate. With an unknown number of players and (expensive) rebuys, I suspect that must be very much a guess. Another missing piece of information is how much of the entry fees goes into the prize pool.
European BlackJack Tour 2007 Ok just got a bit(not much) more info through from my host, At least this has a direct email address which i will pass on to you all and a phone number, Have also asked Ken if we can have a european tournament section on here which will make it easier to follow new tournaments. the email address for any questions is - T.Fabbro@sbm.mc phone - Tél : 98 06 23 00 in reply to asking prize breakdown. Dear Mr Lester , We would be delighted to greet you again, We are pleased to inform you that the final gaming prize to be won is 250 000 € for the winner and 250 000 € to be shared within 12 other finalists . Trusting that everything is in order , we stay at your entire disposal for event and would..... Service Clientèle Jeux Tél : 98 06 23 00
Thanks for that. By the way, the web site for the Cercle Gaillon also gives a contact address for information - camille@cerclegaillon.net
Paris satellites are held at Aviation Club de France (Thursdays) and Cercle Gaillon (Tuesdays). However, they seem to have problems finding players, I have not been able to play so far (for lack of players). The best way might be to register for the semi-final, but at EUR 3400 a seat it's a bit on the expensive side.
thanks for letting us all know Saladin, I guess the only other way is if enough of us decide to go there on one date
It sounds that the organizers of this event made the same mistake a lot of BJT organizers do: high entry fees without a guaranteed prize pool.
Austria just registered for the Linz and Seefeld tournament Any info on registering for the Monte Carlo will be on the way to Las Vegas for the Hilton BJT Nov 28. have invite Pls advise Howard Landskroner Jakarta Indonesia
Hi, Just in case there is any confusion, this thread relates to events from last year. However, as I think you have probably spotted, the Linz and Monte Carlo tournaments have been advertised again for this year. Regarding Linz, were you told how many entrants they currently have? The web site that I linked to here - https://www.blackjacktournaments.com/threads/4922 - still says that there are 121 (out of 140) places available, just as it did in June. Since we now know at least one further place has been taken, I wonder if the site has not been updating. Regarding Monte Carlo, I've been checking their web site from time to time since posting this - https://www.blackjacktournaments.com/threads/4878. Recently, there has been a slight screw-up with their site, which means that the link I posted no longer works. However, the page is still accessible here - www.montecarlocasinos.com/European-Black-Jack-Tour-2008,1446.html Once again, the content has not changed since June. We are still being told that further details will be given in 'just a few weeks'. I tried emailing the address given but didn't receive a reply.
Hi all, I live in Europe, have called MC last week. Wasn't easy to get someone who even knew about the tournament. She told me it has been cancelled, I should call in another month or so. Cheers Favrad
