There is a new variation of BJ available in a tournament version. I'ts called "Fast Cash Jack " and has been added to the games library at Harrah's Rincon in San Diego. For info on this game: http://www.inag11.com/fastcashjack_lg.html
"No Thanks Jack" "Fast Cash Jack" sounds like a hell of an idea... For the casino! Lets see, I can ante $100.00 plus make my regular bet, if I win the hand I win my bet and still move on with my $100.00 ante and hopes of winning more hands in a roll than the other players at the table. Wow, what a deal and the casino is only going to take 5% for the house. But wait, why can't I just bet the same $100.00 on my hand and if I win I have doubled my money and possible hit a BJ at 3-2? Seems like a better plan. If I lose the first hand my $100.00 is gone anyway. But wait, you said I could win $700.00 (less the 5% rake)....MMMmmm, how about I bet my $100.00 and win, now I let it ride ($200.00) and win again. Now I have $400.00, so I let it ride again and win now I have $800.00 and with no 5% rake. Seems like to win on "Fash Cash Jack" a player would need to win three hands in a roll anyway, so just betting straight up and letting it ride would not only be an easier way to win, but a way to win more and without any house cut. This sounds worse than 6-5 blackjack, I really hope no one falls for this "Fast Cash Scam". This idea at Harrah's Rincon is worst than the (resently departed) "World Series of 21" they tried in AC a couple of months ago. If your at Rincon stop by and tell them "No Thanks Jack"...LOL. I am being nice, it is a good thing Joep didn't see this post first now that he is back, he would have really ripped this game!...LOL
It seems that you have not grasped the concept..... For the casino! Lets see, I can ante $100.00 plus make my regular bet, if I win the hand I win my bet and still move on with my $100.00 ante and hopes of winning more hands sin a roll than the other players at the table. That statement makes no sense if you actually read and UNDERSTOOD the game.. This is a tournament style game, you do not have the choice of letting it ride and doubling as you say here: But wait, you said I could win $700.00 (less the 5% rake)....MMMmmm, how about I bet my $100.00 and win, now I let it ride ($200.00) and win again. Now I have $400.00, so I let it ride again and win now I have $800.00 and with no 5% rake. Please try reading this: FCJ offers casinos a 5% rake of each pot. The game denominations can be offered in $10, $25, $50, even $100. Fast Cash Jack™ is a fast paced poker game using Blackjack rules. Players ante, each are dealt a Blackjack hand, plays out the house hand, player who win move to the next round. Last man standing wins the pot. "pot" of course being the key word .... http://www.pn2media.com/res/pdf/fcj.pdf Also: Seems like to win on "Fash Cash Jack" a player would need to win three hands in a roll anyway, so just betting straight up and letting it ride would not only be an easier way to win, but a way to win more and without any house cut. This sounds worst than 6-5 blackjack, I really hope no one falls for this "Fast Cash Scam". If you were to investigate properly, than maybe you may want to retract your statements.... Not trying to be rude, but you should have read the rules better... you are quoting ways to play that DO NOT EXIST in the game.
Do you really want to challenge me? Quote from Bjplayer777 - It seems that you have not grasped the concept... Bjplayer777 I'm sorry, I went back and read all the rules and looked over your format closer the second time. I did make a mistake, "Fast Cash Jack" is actually worse than I first thought. That statement makes no sense if you actually read and UNDERSTOOD the game. Explain it to me and everyone else then! Because the way I read it is if you lose a hand your out, is this not correct? This is a tournament style game; you do not have the choice of letting it ride and doubling as you say here: Duh! That’s why I said you were better off just doubling up a $100.00 in regular play then paying $100.00 for an ante with a 5% rake on top. Please try reading this: FCJ offers casinos a 5% rake of each pot. The game denominations can be offered in $10, $25, $50, even $100. Fast Cash Jack™ is a fast paced poker game using Blackjack rules. Players ante, each are dealt a Blackjack hand, plays out the house hand, player who win move to the next round. Last man standing wins the pot. "pot" of course being the key word.... http://www.pn2media.com/res/pdf/fcj.pdf Also: Seems like to win on "Fast Cash Jack" a player would need to win three hands in a roll anyway, so just betting straight up and letting it ride would not only be an easier way to win, but a way to win more and without any house cut. This sounds worst than 6-5 blackjacks; I really hope no one falls for this "Fast Cash Scam". If you were to investigate properly, than maybe you may want to retract your statements.... If you want to enlighten us with different rules then what you have posted on your site than maybe I will retract my statements. Not trying to be rude, but you should have read the rules better... you are quoting ways to play that DO NOT EXIST in the game. Here is a list of your rules, from your web site: Explain them to us. Here is a list of "FAST CASH JACK" rules from their web site: The Object: Simple really, don't lose! Don't lose, that is pretty simple. 1. Players ante (Say $ 100 each). 2. Each player is dealt a Blackjack hand. 3. The dealer plays out the House hand, players with winning hands move on to the next round, players with losing hands are out of the game. Now you say move on to the next round, but a hand is what you’re calling a round. Last man standing wins… …it's Fast Cash Jack. Fast Cash Jack will be very popular in land-based casinos, where the casino will take a rake of 5 % of each pot. It will likely be offered in various denominations; $ 10, $ 25, $ 50, even $ 100 in gaming hot spots. In the virtual world, the possibilities are endless, from a single dollar ante to hundreds or thousands of dollars per game…it's Fast Cash Jack! I see that players can play at different amounts, but your example was ("let's take a $100.00") that is why I used that as an example. Within the gaming industry, Fast Cash Jack is the closest a player can come to playing an extreme sport! I won't even answer that comment! Players' initial reaction is usually along this line…"This is the most addictive, adrenaline-charged, extreme casino game I've ever played!" We won't argue; that is what we designed it to be. Have you asked any players that actually know how to play or any tournament players about this concept? I don't think so...LOL Look your last comment explains why you are promoting this game, you designed it, I wish you success, but I would never play it. As a tournament player the entire concept if flawed. RULES AND NOTES A rotating dealer button is randomly placed for the first hand. A player needs one win to move to the next round of play. Players may play two hands, but they are totally independent of one another. A push (tie) is a win for the player, he moves on to the next round of play. Splitting requires an extra ante for each new hand. The additional ante(s) is automatically added to the pot. You got to be kidding, what a joke...lol If a player doubles down, he must slide in an additional ante, which is automatically added to the pot. If the player wins the double down, he is awarded an additional life. There is no limit to the additional lives a player can earn. A player does not receive an additional life for a double down push, but still moves on to the next round. How the hell did you sell this idea to a casino...lol, I'm sorry but this concept Sucks!...lol If all players' hands lose in the same round, the players with additional lives move on to the next round. If only one player has an additional life, he wins. If no one has an additional life, the player(s) whose hand is closest to 21, without going over, wins the pot. LOL, no comment, this is to funny! When playing Fast Cash Jack, the Blackjack bonus is the return of the lucky player's ante, even on a pushed Blackjack. The dealer has one card face-up, and obviously plays last (regardless of dealer button placement). The House hits all 16s or less, and stays on all 17s or more. Blackjack beats 21. Wow, really? If all players agree, the pot may be split accordingly. Okay, BJplayer777 explain the format and rules to us and show us how and why this is such a great game, because from what I have read your game "SUCKS"!
I am so happy to see that you are an expert in gaming.... I totally beleive you over Harrah's and 7 other casinos as well in Calif. moron...
How to Play All players Ante table limit. These Antes form the Game Pot that players are playing for. The dealer distributes one Life Token* to all players. Each player is dealt a Blackjack hand, starting with the player to the left of the dealer button. Players play their hands against the house’s hand. If a player’s hand beats or ties the house’s hand, that player moves on to the next round. If player loses his hand(s) to the house’s hand, without any wins or ties, that player loses a Life Token. Play continues for subsequent rounds until there is one player left with a Life Token. That player wins the pot, less house’s commission. A rotating dealer button is randomly placed for the first hand. A player needs one win to move to the next round of play. Players may play two hands, but they are totally independent of one another. A push (tie) is a win for the player. He moves on to the next round of play. Splitting requires an extra Ante for each new hand. The additional Ante(s) is automatically added to the Game Pot. If a player doubles down, he must slide in an additional Ante, which is automatically added to the Game Pot. If the player wins the double down, he is awarded an additional Life Token. A player may not have more than two Life Tokens at any time during the game. A player does not receive an additional Life Token for a double down push, but still moves on to the next round of play. If all players' hands lose in the same round, the players with additional Life Tokens move on to the next round. If only one player has an additional Life Token, he wins. If no one has an additional Life Token, the player(s) whose hand is closest to 21, without going over, wins the Game Pot. When playing Fast Cash Jack, the Blackjack bonus is the return of the lucky player's Ante, even on a pushed Blackjack. The dealer has one card face-up, and obviously plays last (regardless of dealer button placement). The house hits all 16s or less, and stays on all 17s or more. Blackjack beats 21. If all players agree, the pot may be split accordingly.
OK, this thread got entirely out of hand. BJplayer777, you accomplished your goal of posting information about your new game, and I left your post detailing the rules intact. While you may think the idea is the best thing since sliced bread, you'll have to accept that not everyone will agree. TxTourPlayer, posting PM's in public is a bad idea, no matter how offensive their content. Mentioning that you received an offensive and unprofessional private message is fine. Posting the actual content will get your message busted. Maxwell & BJFan4, your posts were just swept out with the rest because they were responses to messages that no longer exist. After all this, I'm not offering an opinion on this game. I do hope BJPlayer777 will keep us posted on what kind of player interest it generates at Rincon.
Sorry Ken you're right about the posting the PM, I am sorry. I lost it after the 5th one I received. I have no problem with the posts coming down, that is why I called you, I saw they were getting out of control.
Fast Cash Jack: Sorry, but I'm crashing another party where I wasn't invited or don't belong. Fast Cash Jack? Blztfyklllzynkzyzs!
Noman... You and everybody else is always invited here. Is it just me or does this format sound like a "Sudden Death" version of a Sit and Go tournament?
Among other things.....It's gained so much popularity among the california and one other casino cause its a huge money maker for the casinos. 6-5 bikini pit attraction. There might be an angle for a thinking player, but it probably comes down to the same odds as playing the pair square.
hmmmmmm FCJ (or Far Cough Jack as I like to call it) seems like the biggest lottery BJT invented. Lose once and your out, unless you have an extra life, or if you receive a push, your hand is closest to 21 without going over... or if mario goes through the correct pipe and manages to save daisy before the star wears off!!! "I may be new to the game... but I'm not that new" :laugh:
Surprized of so little comments have been made? Victorj, I am surprized at how few have posted about this so called tournament. I agree with you (as I posted), just hope you don't start getting attacked by Bjplayer777 the way I did for not liking his game design...LOL
i dunno TXtourplayer, please don't be hard on Bjplayer777. He's invented a game and posted it with hopes of receiving a little, just a little, congratulations. The first reply to his thread is... you, with less than complementary feedback. :laugh: However, what he hadn't realised is that he should have spent more time trying to please customers than casinos, and DEFINATELY not wasted his time designing THAT catchy logo!! I'm not saying invent a game whereby the customer has a higher win ratio against the house, but let's start seeing some games designed with entertaining the seasoned players, not just profit related nonsense. "I have a dream, that one day BJT is based on favoring the better players, thus making the sheizer players work for their food"
But,... Victorj, true I didn't care for the format, but I explained why and it wasn't until he tried explaining to me that I didn't understand tournaments and he started attaking me with nasty PM's did I really start picking the game to pieces. I hope all BJ tournaments work so they can promote more interest in tournament play, but I'm not going to put up with being attacked over my opinion.
Here, here FWIW TX I agree with you. Your argumentation (that's a word my old boss invented ) was clear and well presented and I thought that was good enough for me. Cheers Reachy
