Greg fletcher system

Discussion in 'Sidewalk Cafe' started by harrybull, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. harrybull

    harrybull New Member

    has anyone heard of this or tried it out. It's a pretty complelling pitch. I KNOW compelling pitches because I write them. Any one tried this guy out?
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  2. Billy C

    Billy C Top Member


    Just when I thought you might have SOME sense you show that you don't!

    Billy C
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  3. dreamer

    dreamer New Member

    Waiting for the Masters to weigh in....

    The "Bottom Line' is that it'll cost $60 to check this out (Purchase by Wednesday 3/4) with a full 365-day guarantee if you're not completely happy!

    Need some of the Masters to check out this "pitch" and weigh in on this post.

    Anxious to see what is said after a few of you read the Advertisement....

  4. Billy C

    Billy C Top Member

    C'mon dreamer

    He's selling the rythym and flow of the cards idea! Do you really need to hear more?
    If it worked like advertised wouldn't he be playing BJ instead of trying to peddle this "system" for a paltry $59.97??????

    Billy C
  5. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

    Typical snake oil. Save your $60.
  6. harrybull

    harrybull New Member

    lack of commen sense...

    WOW ! Bit strong squire. I got emailed it, thought I see what anyone else made of it. That is, as I understand it, the point of a forum no ? I write pitches for a living and this is certainly extremly informative & in my experience it's really difficult to say so much about nothing. The biggest red flag was, as Ken pointed out, the $60. Still this being the 'anything else' section & that to my mind is definitly 'anything else'. I'd had felt a hell of a lot worse if I'd just dismissed it and then, by some mirical, discovered 2 years latter that it had earned people fourtunes but was now obsolete.
  7. askdick

    askdick Member

    RE: Blackjack system

    I read most of the selling pitch...overstated and quite boring...BUT...

    I believe his pitch is the same system (or close) to what I have been playing for 40 years. I am assuming it is based on RUNS, great money management and many hours of grueling torture.

    I know the "know it alls" say it will not work, but it does. It will provide a profit at any level you wish to play providing you look over the long term. Regardless if you are counting or playing a "run system", you still need luck. Counting only gives you a positive or negative probability, but the dealer still gives you the next card.

    Good luck
  8. Fredguy

    Fredguy New Member

    This is the same question I ask about everybody who has ever written and sold a card counting book or system.
    In my industry we have an old saying...
    If you can't do it, teach it.
    If you can't teach it consult on it.
    If you can't consult on it, write about it.
    If you can't write about it, host a radio program.:D
  9. Billy C

    Billy C Top Member

    White Flag!

    I give up.

    Billy C
  10. noman

    noman Top Member

    Well said Fred. And if you host a radio program go ahead and invite someone on YOUR turf to debate, under your rules and your control ,seemingly important topics which will be turned into gobblydygook.
  11. harrybull

    harrybull New Member

    world war 3!

    Ok Ok I was only asking a question guys, don't want to destroy the VIBE of the site!! For the record I play Black jack using advanced basic stratergy and have 2 simple rules, have a big enough bank roll to weather a poor run and leave WITHOUT fail when you are up 30% on the amount you originally bought in for. It's not fail proof but I am often in and out of the casino in under 10 mins, my aim is £300 (give or take) per session.
    i have never taken a running total but provided I stick to these basics, I seem to do ok. There are time's I'll play for samller amounts (£20 per hand) for fun and play hours and hours, It's about break even on these visits.
    It's how I love to play. Glad to have got people so animated though lol !:joker:
  12. toolman1

    toolman1 Active Member


    Don't take what is said on this forum personally. Sometimes we may get a little over zealous when discussing a "system" that is not mathematically viable so we tend to use strong language to discourage the use of that "system". Again it's nothing personal.

    I do have two questions:

    1) Exactly what do you mean by advanced basic strategy?

    2) You said "leave WITHOUT fail when you are up 30% on the amount you originally bought in for" and "I am often in and out of the casino in under 10 mins". Based on those statements, I'm guessing your average bet is about 10% of you starting bankroll. Is that correct?
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  13. Lil Sissy

    Lil Sissy Banned User

    Are you jealous?

    I know a guy

    That can teach it and he does
    Than can consult on it and he does
    That can write about it and he does
    That can talk about it and he does on his radio show :D

    BTW what is your industry besides washing golf balls?
  14. Fredguy

    Fredguy New Member

    I'm not sure why you would think my industry has anything to do with washing golf balls ? Please clarify.
    Besides, I think you missed the whole point of my post. It was meant as a critique of people who sell BJ systems, instead of keeping them confidential and profiting by playing in casinos.
  15. Lil Sissy

    Lil Sissy Banned User

    So if that is really the case what did the following authors just to name a few tell you when you asked them your question about their books or system

    James Grosjean

    Stanford Wong

    Arnold Snyder

    I have more but I figured this would be a good start.

    The guy you were refering to with your hosting a radio show comment never has sold information to any players.He actually has been very generous in sharing information with the tournament community and was instrumental in the development of increasing my tournament skills along with a few others.

    You should try to get your hand on some back issues of All In Magazine where his "House of Pane" articles may be the best tournament material ever written for a magazine.If not try to search on here for some of his tournament teasers that he use to post here for all to learn from. All "FREE" if I may add.

    As far as the Golf Ball washing industry comment you need to go to Las Vegas Advisor forums and look under "Grumpy Old Man rises from the couch" That might help you understand the reference I made to your line of work.
  16. Fredguy

    Fredguy New Member


    For Lil Sissy....

    Regardless of what it says in that forum, my business has nothing to do with golf balls, or any other kind of balls.

    As John Riggons once said to Sandra Dey O'Connor "loosen up baby".
  17. Lil Sissy

    Lil Sissy Banned User

    Take a stroke

    How about answering the question as to what these 3 authors had to say to your question to them about their books and card counting systems.

    "Loosen Up" and answer the question or do you really have no response to my request.It's like hitting your ball out of bounds, nowhere to be found just like your answer.:laugh:
  18. noman

    noman Top Member

    For the Record: Or DVD or Blue Ray, or whatever

    My reference was to LIMBLAHBLAH.

    And the list of books should have included K. Smith. Hollywood. Einenger and Revere. Hey?

    Been so long since the war, I forgot it even happened.
  19. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, we get it already. Fredguy doesn't like Lil Sissy/Joe. Lil Sissy/Joe don't like Fredguy. I really fail to see the point. Can we just quit poking each other with sticks?
  20. harrybull

    harrybull New Member

    None was taken that was squire, I enjoy the bantter.You should sit next to me at a blckjack table. A wall flower I ain't ! I got the feeling that TBJ is going to suit me big style. Which site would you recomend for free practice ?
    I practice with basic stratergy charts over hundreds of hands a week on softwhere, i alway try to learn the probability of when to hit, sit double or split over and above the basuc stuff thast you learn when you first hit the tables. Only takes you so far but I enjoy it.

    Your not wrong, every now and again you have to take a hit and get wiped out with 10 bad hands but it's rare, really rare. A bank roll augmentation system that I have used when short on funds at the roulett table will always replenish if disaster hits. It's MIND NUMBING but if you sit there and gring it out, you WILL rebuild your bank roll.
    Can take HOURS or even days. But it's there if I need it.
    Looking forward to actually playing in a tourrny soon.
    I KNOW I'll get my Butt kicked at first but hey ho, thats what it's all about right ?
    can't wait to find another issue as hot as this thread has turned out to be lol:joker:
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