How Ultimate Bet let players be cheated out of millions

Discussion in 'Blackjack Events (Online Casinos)' started by KenSmith, May 23, 2008.

  1. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

  2. BJFAN4

    BJFAN4 New Member

    Wow!!!

    Thanks for the head's up about a crooked site. On the Blackjack side of UB, this would give new meaning to "playing the dealer's hole card" if the hole card was known to certain accounts. Taking or not taking insurance, hitting or not hitting stiff hands or even hitting good hands takes on new basic strategy meaning.
    Due to the low volume of play on the Blackjack side of UB I tend to doubt that anything crooked is taking place given that the gains would not be substantial. However, the potential for larceny does exist. :joker: :joker: :joker:
     
  3. RKuczek

    RKuczek Member

    Thanks for the info Ken

    It is scary to see the evidence these guys have accumulated - and that it implicates principles at Ultimate Bet as well as Absolute Poker -

    It appears as if the same methods? were used at both sites, by a small group of people who ripped off millions over a fairly short period of time - and that once the Absolute Poker scandal got out - they tried to cover their tracks at UB, but didn't stop until the problem at UB got exposed.

    Given how tribes work - I think it unlikely that anyone will be severely punished for any of this - and the players will be lucky to get their money back - but in the Absolute Poker case - there was reimbursement - so - one can hope -

    This is a great example of why online gaming should be legalized and closely regulated by national governments -

    Likely the EBJ tournaments don't offer enough money to really temp a cheater out to make big money - but - who knows - maybe a player with the ability to see hidden cards might just be playing ebj and using this 'just for fun'
     
  4. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

  5. askdick

    askdick Member

    poker scam

    for them to come clean they must publish the offenders names and their association with the companies. i suspect they are still lying about the accounts!!! obviously they should be sent to a better place???
     
  6. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

  7. Barney Stone

    Barney Stone New Member

    The stuff on the twoplustwo message board is deep and I mean deep. OUCH.
     
  8. swog

    swog Elite Member Staff Member

    What blows my mind ....... the thread was started yesterday, and they have 53 pages in 28 hours.
     
  9. Barney Stone

    Barney Stone New Member

    The "detectives" are here on our board! I just came here from 2+2 !!
     
  10. UNOME

    UNOME New Member

    Russ Hamilton Appears to be Tied to UB Super User Scandal
    By Dan

    About 10 days ago, UltimateBet released a statement updating its users and the online poker world about the latest news in its investigation into the cheating scandal that rocked the poker room during the early part of 2008. It issued a list of several new user names traced to the disturbance: Crackcorn55, WhakMe, GrabBag123, gravitation, Bgroup, H_Curtis, Twenty 1, WacoManiac, Broke_In_L_A, ShaqTack, BlueBerry101, HolyMucker, 55WasHere, Xnomas, dannyboy55, Indy05, and SlimPikins2. These were in addition to the original slate of names, which included the well-known account NioNio plus Sleepless, NoPaddles, and nvtease. In a thread on PocketFives, it has been alleged that the latter three names can be traced to former UB owner Russ Hamilton.

    In the same statement, UB conceded that the cheating had been taking place long before the online poker room initially thought: January, 2005 to be exact. The cheaters exploited an auditing tool that, when utilized, allowed a person to see the hole cards of every single person seated at a table. In essence, therefore, a “super account” wasn’t used. Rather, a piece of software was run when the users were logged into any account. As such, there are a bevy of screen names associated with the scandal.

    It has recently been revealed, in a post by PocketFiver Nat N 82 50 24 Arem that three accounts - Sleepless, NoPaddles, and nvtease – have an address that matches the home owned by Russ Hamilton, one of the former owners of UB. After the site was sold in 2006, Hamilton and several other accomplices are alleged to have exploited the hole in UB’s security system in order to attain an unfair advantage during play.

    The address given on the three aforementioned accounts is 1725 Glenview Dr., Las Vegas, Nevada, 89134. Since most property ownership information is in the public domain, visiting the Clark County, Nevada Assessor’s website can allow you to search for the name matched to that property’s address. Sure enough, the ownership of 1725 Glenview Dr. belongs to none other than Hamilton. Here’s the information taken directly from the Assessor’s website:

    Current Parcel Number: 138-19-810-002
    Current Owner: HAMILTON RUSSELL & CAROLYN
    Recorded Document Number: *20060523:03704
    Recorded Date: 05/23/2006
    Vesting: JOINT TENANCY
    Tax District: 200
    Estimated Size: SUBDIVIDED LOT

    Arem was given the address by a whistleblower at UltimateBet. That person also gave Arem the following information linked to the accounts:

    Name: Lauren B Makar
    Address 1: 1725 Glenview Dr.
    City: Las Vegas
    State: NEVADA
    Postal Code: 89134
    Country UNITED STATES
    Customer Phone: 702326xxxx
    Customer Birthdate: 1967-xx-xx
    Email Information: Address: atease@vegasinbox.com

    So who is Russ Hamilton? First of all, he’s a World Series of Poker bracelet winner. He took down the 1994 Main Event for $1 million. His most recent cash was $145,875, which he pocketed for finishing 55th in the 2005 Main Event. He has a pair of World Poker Tour cashes as well. The latest came in the Season IV PokerStars Caribbean Adventure, where Hamilton finished 41st and took home $13,500. The UB press release distributed at the end of May states that the perpetrators (who allegedly included Hamilton) targeted “the highest limit games on the site.” The Assessor’s office notes that the property changed hands on May 23, 2006 officially to Hamilton. It was formerly owned by Makar Travis.

    Hamilton’s career hasn’t been confined to poker. He is the founder of Elimination Blackjack, which was played on the Ultimate Blackjack Tour. The Tour was endorsed by a host of well-known poker pros, including Annie Duke, Phil Hellmuth Jr., Robert Williamson III, Johnny Chan, Freddy Deeb, Monica Reeves, and Layne Flack. “Hollywood” Dave Stann and gambling guru Anthony Curtis also participated. It aired on CBS in 2006.

    UltimateBet is owned today by Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, who purchased the online poker room in 2006. Its public faces include Phil Hellmuth and Annie Duke. Also on its roster are Star Players Cliff “JohnnyBax” Josephy and James “P0KERPR033” Campbell.
     
  11. Xoote

    Xoote New Member

    Thanks for the heads up
     

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