fgk42
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fgk42,
1) Of course it would be dominated by AP players. What game isn't? Be it poker, baseball, football, bridge, canasta, etc.. The APs always dominate overall. BJ is no different.
AP players don't really have much of an advantage in a TBJT due to the limited number of hands - 2 shoes at most. In fact most people spend so much time worrying about chip stacks that card counting usually doesn't take place (unless you're James Grosjean)
If fact with online shuffles every hand there is no AP player advantage at all and it allows little guys a level playing field.
2) Collusion. Happens all the time in many types of games. The object is to set up rules to minimize the effect not just say "it's a possibility and therefore the game is no good". Think out of the box.
Collusion on TBJT is rare, or at least I've been told.
What said the game is no good? Are you confusing me with B@#%@#&! I didn't write ANYTHING negative. I simply pointed out obvious outcomes, in my opinion.
3) Poker comparison. We always use poker as a comparison because of it's success. What we are trying to accomplish is using some of the reasons for poker's success to make BJ tournaments more acceptable to the general public.
Now here's another thought and yes it's taken from poker:
As BJTs are played today they are actually 3, 4, 5 or more individual small tournaments. We call these small tournaments "rounds". So why not play BOUNTY BJ like poker? Everyone starts playing at the same time. If you have more players than the tables allow, do like that did at the WSOP when they had 8,000 players - 2 separate starting times to get the field down to a manageable level. Now as the players lose their bankroll the tables become consolidated and the players carry their chips with them just like poker. You can then take "breaks" as needed and if you needed to "use the facilities" you wouldn't be eliminated because of a week bladder. Since the tables would be constantly changing, collusion would be at a minimum. One tournament, played until just one player has "all the marbles". I personally like it. What about everyone else?
Negative comments are needed to bring to light any short comings. But negative comments with solutions are better. Keep it coming and remember to "think outside the box".
Negative comments? Me? Whoa Nelly! If I wasn't going to the Bahama's tomorrow I'd put on my Depends and drive all night to Oklahoma to take you head on Toolman :joker:
A few more off the cuff thoughts:
How about playing BOUNTY BJ at a poker table to allow 10 or 12 players at a table? You could then play the tournament in a poker room while poker tournaments are not active. This would free up the BJ tables for regular live play when the tournament players are not playing in the BJ tournament (casinos make more money this way). Or how about removing all restrictions placed on the dealer - let the dealer hit or stand on anything (no DD or splits for the dealer of course)? This would make a "cut throat" play more risky? Or all cards dealt down including the dealer? Or.....??? Ideas, ideas, ideas. That's what we need to save our "sport" from a "used to play game" thats it's fast becoming.
That's whay I mentioned PokerJack. Here's the rules:
PokerJack
This is a total hybrid game combining the betting skills of BJ and the bluffing/reading skills of poker. Here’s how it is played.
1. There is a button positioned in front of players and rotating – just like TBJT.
2. Players take turns betting – just like TBJT
3. Dealer deals each player two (2) cards, just like TBJT, face down.
4. Player then take turns, starting with the button on placing additional bets – any amount up to their original bet.
5. If a player has BJ at this time they must turn their cards over on their turn in order to receive a 3:2 payment. If not their hand will simply be considered an 11 and they will be allowed to bet additionally.
6. Dealer then deals himself a card up for all players to see.
7. Players are then allowed to bet any amount, up to double their original bet
8. Dealer gives himself a card
9. The dealer deals cards to players face DOWN. The player holds the cards in their hands and when they want to stop places their cards under their stacked chips. You can DD at this time.
9. After all players’ cards have been dealt the players get to make one final round of betting based upon their hands. If a player has a card total above 21 they can still bet buy all chips will be forfeited.
10. After all the betting is done the dealer turns over their cards – standing on all 17’s.
11. players can split up to 3 times
12. There is no doubling down as a second betting round occurs
13. If a player busts they have the option of turning over their cards immediately after receiving the bust card and retrieving ½ of their bet
HOW'S THIS FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX?
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