Note: This discussion began as part of the thread about a specific event at the Venetian in Las Vegas. You can see that thread here: https://www.blackjacktournaments.co...ccarat-tournament-venetian-las-vegas-nv.8294/ A reasonable target goal in that event was to turn a starting bankroll of $50,000 into $450,000 in 10 hands, with a max bet of $50,000 on player or banker.... Assumption 1: The tie bet is limited to $6250 or less making it not useful for getting big results. Assumption 2: There is no commission on banker bets. We need a net win of 8 max bets in 10 hands to get to $450,000 ending bankroll. I did some quick spreadsheet work and came up with an estimate of success 1 in 138.1 tries. At a $50 buyin, that's a cost of $6905. Assuming $450k will get you in the top four, your avg daily win is $6250. Then I guess you get one free entry into the Ruby session worth another $250. Still short. I took a lot of shortcuts with my math to get to 138.1, so if anyone works it out exactly I would be curious to see how close I am to accurate.