Bet21.com Deposit Bonus Synopsis

[fgk42]

You know what’s funny? When we reflect upon our past words and see how they line up with where we stand. Since there are many new members here, I thought I’d do a Joep search and walk down memory land for the past year. Here’s what I found:

From almost a year ago today:

April 26, 2006

As of 3 P.M. Pacific time today April 26 WWW.Global-Player.com has given away over 2.900 in bonus money in these Sit & Go Tournaments.My hat is off to Global Player for this, you are one hell of a organization.Finally someone treating Tournament players like human's and not like Public Enemy #1 .Bonus money will only remain for a short time come on over.

http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?p=5024&highlight=bonus+money#post5024

So Global Player actually paid bonus money to players and you complimented them? Since they (Global) did what they said you implied they (Global) was ‘one hell of an organization…treating tournament players like human’s and not like Public Enemy #1’

So if a company doesn’t pay their tournament players what they promised is that company treating its tournament players like Public Enemy #1?

In September 2006 a player, DachHolliday posted this (I must have missed it) :flame:

I contacted Bet21 to figure out what is going on with the bonuses and this was their respose.

Thank you for contacting us.
The information you are referring to has been taken off our website several days ago.
We are sorry but elimination black jack tables are not eligible for redeeming your bonus money.
Feel free to contact us for any further information.
Best regards,

Fernando
Customer Service Department

Here’s the link for those, like myself, who missed it: http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?p=15809&highlight=deposit+bonus#post15809

On September 24, 2006 Hollwood Dave jumped into the melee with this post:

No offense taken, Rick...just wanted to be clear. And as for the Bet21 bonus applying to blackjack as well as poker, i have been told that this is something that they are definately working on right now, so i will hopefully have more good news or an announcement for you guys soon on this. i agreed with you the other day, it is certainly not cool what happened, but i hope to hear something much more positive on this issue soon.

Hmmm I wonder what happened there? Better yet, to whom was HD referring to when he (Dave Stann) stated, ‘I have been told that this is something that they are definitely working on right now?’

As of October 26, 2006 this from Ace:

The bonuses still show up at 100% when you deposit. Accessing it is a different story.

I've got around $400 'Pending Bonus Dollars' but have never been able to touch it.

Then the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT that we were all waiting for. On November 19, 2006:

My credibility is more important than making a point or taking a position on some subject that I do not have all the facts about.This is why I never answered the question about the deposit bonus at www.Bet21.com. Until now.

As a sponsor of the radio show, I have had contact with them and have been trying to get the answers that many here were asking. Now I do.

They have installed a new software that will track all bonus money earned while playing blackjack and Elimination Blackjack tournaments.Poker playing will still earn you bonus dollars also.

The deposit bonuses that are due players that have new and recent deposits, will appear in your account and be available to use in 2 to 3 weeks at the most.

All players who signed up when Bet 21 first came on line, will receive all their due bonuses retro active from Day 1 of their deposit.As this will take some addition time to check all play from the beginning, they have told me ALL owed bonus money will be resolved by Jan. 1, 2007, at the latest.

http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?p=20566&highlight=bonus+money#post20566

Hey I missed this post in December 2006 about deposit bonuses:
December 4:

December and Christmas at Get21
________________________________________
Hello all,

We continue with our new player's promotion for a limited time,
All non US players join today and receive your $10!!!

All players get 25% cash bonus on their first deposit,
which makes it easy for them to win our tournaments in December:

Oh, I’m a US Citizen so it wasn’t applicable to ME. I wonder if Get21.com PAID their deposit bonus money? I think so. Isn’t this the same company that someone here (Joep) slammed because they (Get21) was a “rip off” of Bet21.com? Lets re-examine that link shall we?
On September 20, 2006 look:

Wrong Thread
________________________________________
If you are not trying to ride the wave and upsurge of UBT and Bet 21 why than did you post about your web site under the UBT Forum ?

I would think there is a proper place for your advertising your site other than on this Forum.

Unless I'm right and that was your original intention.

p.s. Isn't Golden Palace really behind G...21

Joep

http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?p=15873#post15873
But I’m digressing from BET21.com. GET21.com obviously pays what they promise. I wonder who ripped off whom? Anyway
So it seems like people trusted Joep for this word. Until January 5, 2007 that is. Hollywood to the rescue:

I don't wanna start a huge thing here, because I know how sensitive an issue it is to be promised a large deposit bonus and then have the conditions of that bonus change after the fact -- but I can honestly tell you, they're working on it. its not something that they're hoping people will forget about, and its not something they're trying to get out of.

http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?p=22477&highlight=deposit+bonus#post22477
Well in March I had enough and started a Boycott Bet21.com campaign. Finally Joep jumped in with this:
March 21, 2007

Fred winning a small battle does not always win the war.I will say once again I believe that the bonus money will be resolved to everyones satisfaction,well maybe not everyone as we always have on this board 2 or 3 " Stir The Pot" at any cost posters,but I believe the majority of the members here really pay no attention …

Then, almost a month ago, Joep started a thread, “Why you should NOT boycott Bet21.com”
March 26, 2007

NOTE: Blackjack Bonus Dollars are coming soon!

On the site they do say that the Blackjack Bonus Dollars are coming soon,but no one seems to report that.Most posters here just say there is no response to their questions.I believe that this banner is good enough proof that they will make this right.

On April 14, 2007 our very respected leader, Ken Smith posted this:

But, enough is enough. The problems and unanswered issues from Bet21 have finally ballooned to the
point where I can no longer endorse the site in good conscience. I sincerely hope that these issues
are a mere bump in the road on the way to Bet21's success, but I honestly fear that passage of the
UIGEA may have dealt the concept a death blow.

http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3627&highlight=deposit+bonus

Which leads me up to the last post from Joep on this matter, just 2 days ago:
April 18, 2007

I will bet you any amount of money you can muster up and I will even allow you to solicit any other members here who want to contribute to your smear campaign .Here is my offer

I say the Bonus Money will be payed
just so you fully understand what you are going to be betting against

I say the BONUS MONEY will be payed.

Please let me know as soon as you can if we have a bet and how much you are willing to lose.Now don't bet to much because I don't want Mrs FGK to be homeless,so make it a bet that you can lose and not have to adjust your life style over. Because you will never win enough money over at BJ 21 to recover your pending losses.Their player pool is just to small.

Don't take to long to decide to make this bet because I want to have you commit to this bet before you get "COLD FEET"

Well my synopsis is over. A BJT.com readers digest on this pending deposit bonus issue at Bet21.com. I’ve supplied most of the links but not all. Hopefully you, the members and readers here, will be able to make up your own minds.

Lest you think the issue is dead – it isn’t. I’m still waiting to win some money from Mr. Pane – hopefully he’ll be a man and live up to his challenge. But as we look by at November 19, 2006…

The sad part Joep, is that I believe you are listening to the wrong people. When I review the posts in 2005 and 2006 (BEFORE) UBT and Bet21.com ever came on the scene your writing had a much different tone and fairness about them. I understand that sometimes when we stand too close to a tree we lose sight of the forest. Could that be a possibility here?

At this time I will again begin my boycott of Bet21.com. I have several issues which will be presented here and on my blog. I encourage all readers to visit there and leave their comments – unlike other people with blogs I promise not to censor posts I don’t agree with.

Why boycott Bet21.com? Very simply put in order to get a change. In fact I’ll use the words that I found in a post on March 17, 2006 to make my point:

You know when Global will finally make the changes that you and I and others have been requesting. When everyone is off playing the UBT sit & go's .There is nothing like competition to get people off their asses.

In case you’re wondering who made that quote. I can tell you it was a very skillful TBJ player who a lot of people once looked up to. His name? Joe Pane.

 

[fgk42]

I find it hard to believe that a man of your intelligence would say these words and not have concrete facts to back them up. Because if you don't you will become the man who cried "Wolf" once to often,or yelled "Fire" when they wasn't a flame to be found

I ask you again, who has cried Wolf around here once too often