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I would never buy a

300 dollar puter. I was seriously buyng a mid range Dell and would have been getting it by tomorrow. But, is it possible to deposit at bet21? If so how?

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You Said It Not Me

JoeP, you have been a full on critic of paying a 10% house charge. Im almost sure you said no matter the payout a 10% charge was too much and we must not cater to anyone asking that price. Do you pay this charge at bet21?
Barney I have found the post that you were referring to,actually Elyssez found it and made me aware of it

It was your post called 10% House Vig on June 22 under the on-line casinos forum

Like I had stated based upon my memory, I never said what you accused me of saying. It was YOU who actually made the comment about 10% being to much

Thats actually par for the course on here you and poker NUT and a few others should hire some sort of research assistant to proof read your facts before you go public with them.

And yes I pay the same amount of entry fee's on Bet 21, UB and Global Player as everyone else does.I'm happy to do it as they all provide a service to me that I enjoy from the comforts of my home/office.

OFFICE did I say office ? ...................... Who WORKS :)


Joep
 
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Joe

So you think I have a problem with a 10% fee? I love to play at the bjt21 site and it has a 10% fee! Maybe you need to research better. Or, better yet why dont you play at bj21.com? What is your reason for passing the best standard bjt competition site? Ill see you there at 12 pm pst tomorrow. ;)

add on...., this is my post I think Joe is referring to. My point was a 10% fee at blacjack21 was fine, playing at Global was a disaster because it is a casino. In the long run the casino will take more than the 10%. Paying the 10% is a good thing. Im not sure if the recent legislation will interrupt the bj21 plans to lower the take by a couple % for good customers.......
http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1847
 
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Wierd Question

Joep , answer this question: Is on-line gambling against Nevada state law?[/
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To avoid giving you mis information and bad legal advice Poker NUT . I suggest you give the Nevada Attorney General's office a call.I'm not a lawyer so I would not want to give your wrong information.

Are you asking this question because you are considering moving to Nevada and you want to know if you would be breaking the law ?


Joep
 
[fequote=Barney Stone;17284]So you think I have a problem with a 10% Fee?

Barney I'm not sure what your position is or was in regards to a 10% House Vig . I was just correcting you when you said that I had come out and publicly trashed it as being to much

I have no problem paying for a service thats made available to me in the comforts of my home ie.playing blackjack tournaments and poker tournaments and live poker from my computer anywhere in the world. This is a service that I was paying for until my government decided it wasn't good for me.

I have a strange feeling it will be OK for me in the near future once they allow blood sucking casino mega corporations like MGM and Harrahs who have paid enough money to have our lawmakers in their back pockets.Then then will reappear as the new INTERNET on line casino owners .This of course will happen over dinner and many bottles of wine that the tax payers are footing the bill for.

What a SHAME
 
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Online?

correct me if I am wrong - but the new law says you can't send money to an INTERNET CASINO - doesn't stop money transfers to BRICKS AND MORTAR CASINOS - so the Nevada/megacasino corporations can accept money transfers for their customer's accounts - then allow their customers to use the money online? - if the customer is playing "at a table" in the B&M casino? - am I making too fine a point here? misreading what might be allowed? - is there a loophole for the Nevada casinos to do internet gambling through a subterfuge? -

I think you have seen the future Joep - either through some loophole for the megacasino corps - or a little revision of the law down the road
 
Joep , answer this question: Is on-line gambling against Nevada state law?[/
quote]


To avoid giving you mis information and bad legal advice Poker NUT . I suggest you give the Nevada Attorney General's office a call.I'm not a lawyer so I would not want to give your wrong information.

Are you asking this question because you are considering moving to Nevada and you want to know if you would be breaking the law ?


Joep

You didn't have to answer, found it in the Las Vegas SUN:
Expert: Internet ban a boon to gambling industry
By BRENDAN RILEY
ASSOCIATED PRESS

CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Advocates of a bill targeting Internet gambling wanted it passed so badly that they "sold their souls" in agreeing to numerous exemptions that will generally help rather than hinder the gambling industry, an expert said Wednesday.

Attorney Tony Cabot, founding editor of the Internet Gambling Report and coeditor of the Gaming Law Review, said in an interview that the bill, long sought by congressional conservatives opposed to online gambling, "opens up huge opportunities" for the industry.

The measure had appeared dead, but Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had it slipped into a port security bill that passed the House and Senate early Saturday. President Bush plans to sign the measure, a White House spokeswoman said.

Online gambling is generally illegal in most circumstances, but it's difficult to control - Americans bet an estimate $6 billion a year online, according to industry figures. The new measure targets online gambling by prohibiting the use of credit cards, checks and electronic fund transfers to settle illegal online wagers.

Republican lawmakers were eager to find issues that would please conservatives in advance of the Nov. 7 elections, but Cabot said, "In order to get this bill passed, they sold their souls. They gave so many exceptions that it's now a wide-open area."

Cabot agreed that the act may hurt MGM Mirage and Harrah's Entertainment, which host the world's largest poker tournaments and rely heavily on entrants who play in tournaments hosted by online gambling sites. The legislation has left the online gambling sector, based mainly in Britain or in the Caribbean, in turmoil by apparently cutting off at least half their gamblers.

But Cabot said the measure exempts state-licensed casinos, which could conduct online poker or casino-style wagering within their states once authorized to do so - and also could link up with other states or even foreign jurisdictions where such gambling isn't prohibited.

"The casino lobbyists in Washington, D.C., thought this was a pretty good deal. It's actually better than that," Cabot said. "It really opens up the field. It knocks out the offshore companies, and leaves the legal licensees open to take their positions."

The bill also exempts the horse race industry, state lotteries and fantasy sports betting, Cabot said, adding, "This clearly opens up a lot of doors."

"For fantasy sports, they have to be ecstatic because this completely takes any taint of illegality away from them, and gives them an opportunity to grow maybe three-, four-, five-fold," Cabot said.

Cabot said an obvious benefit for casinos would be online links between their progressive slot machines in one state with similar devices in other states. When casino activity is coupled with online betting on such devices, he said jackpots could swell to hundreds of millions of dollars and rival major multistate lotteries.

Several states, including Nevada, prohibit Internet gambling, and such ventures may take years to develop. But Cabot said the new law "is the seed for this to happen."

Some gambling foes have said the 1961 Wire Act, which prohibits making bets on sporting events over the phone, should be applied to Internet betting. Cabot said the Justice Department has contended that the act does apply to nonsports betting, but that argument has been successfully challenged in federal court.

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The ports security bill, which contains the gambling act, is H.R. 4954.

On the Net:

Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov/

Seems like your state of Nevada prohibited internet gambling long ago, so why the fuss when the feds passed a law against it, you were already breaking state law when gambled on-line so why worry about breaking a federal law?
 
Poker NUT

Now you are accusing me of breaking a state law

The last person that accused me of being a criminal paid through the nose for a similar statement

If you promise to continue to copy and paste stuff into your post that you have found from legitimate sources I may actually start to read them all the way through without :vomit:


Joep
 
Joe,

Im glad you had such an easy time getting a refund on a misdealt game.

Your experience is completely different from mine...

I would like to think that it has nothing to do at all with knowing the owner..owners of this site..;)

Here is a copy of my latest reply after no less than 7 requests and explainations by me...I explain...they dodge...I reply...they dodge again...finally I have them boxed into the corner where there is absolutly nothing they can say ...they are wrong, they know it.....and this is what they came up ...............

"Dear Rando21,

I just checked our database and according to our records, you don't have an account in Bet21.com. The ST Kitt's promotion is only valid for bet21 members.

Please let us know if you need any further assistance.

Have a nice day,

Nubia
Customer Service Department"


LOL.....

I dont have an account there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know how the hell I have been playing....someone took my money...although they lied about a deposit bonus...I can assure you when I log on ...I have an account, username, password, account balance...etc..

How do you deal with customer service like this???

I think Mr Pane has received good customer servive....I wonder if he got his deposit bonus as promised? In any case... he got the service everyone should get...

IM NOT GETTING IT!!!!So its good that someone is...

Im not starting any contest here....I love this game and want to play! I havent had the best experiences here....at Bet 21. I understand this is startup...but at some point you have to catch up..you have to show your true colors.

They owe me over $200 is refunds....I know now I'll never see it...after all I dont even have an account....you read it....lol

The game is working somewhat better...less drops ...but I wrote about that already....there are still issues with clock speeds and I still say it is their server with the problem....

Very little problem at UBT's site....why do you think that is???? Whats the difference.....if my customers were bitchin ...Id sure as hell try to find out.

Geesh...wont it be funny when I win the St Kitts trip....I'll really have to eat crow....hahaha...I hope so anyway!!!

Goodluck everyone ...in both Free rolls.
 
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I was an early critic of both Bet21 and Play UBT.

PlayUBT seems to be doing much better for me now.
I haven't played Bet21 much lately.

Just to be fair and state that some earlier problems seem to be better for me now. Hope that is true for everyone else too.
 
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