One Thousand Online Casinos Face UK Advertising Ban

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The UK government will today lay down new powers in Parliament under the Gambling Act 2005, to ban gambling adverts from companies operating outside of the European Economic Area (EEA). The move is set to exclude up to 1,000 online gaming websites which will include some of the industry’s most recognisable brands, when the Act comes into force on September 1.

Independent research has suggested that approximately 2,300 gambling websites are in operation worldwide, with Antigua considered to have the largest number with around 537, followed by Costa Rica (474), Kahnawake (Canadian Reservation) (401) and the Netherlands Antilles (343).

For jurisdictions who fall outside of the EEA, the route to exemption from the ad ban involved a rigorous assessment of their regulatory standards, with sites such as William Hill Casino, Betfred Casino and Poker, Interpoker.com and Littlewoodscasino.com are all currently based in non-white listed jurisdictions.

The Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, James Purnell, has already rejected applications from Alexander (Canadian Reservation), Netherlands Antilles and Tasmania, with applications from Kahnawake and Antigua still being considered.

Operators in online gambling regions such as Costa Rica and Belize who have not applied to be white listed will automatically be banned from advertising in the UK from September 1.

Only Alderney and the Isle of Man were able to demonstrate adequate provisions for the protection of children, vulnerable people, and those for keeping games fair and the prevention of crime.

http://www.onlinecasinonews.com/ocnv2_1/article/article.asp?id=14343

Two things I don't understand:

1. Why did the UK do this?
2. Wasn't one of the reasons the UIGEA was implemented was that "children couldn't be protected right? So how come the UK feels the Isle of Man (i.e., Neteller) lives us to the standard?
 
The Isle Of Man, Guernsey and Jersey are all parts of the UK and under UK Law, this is a ban on advertising only,
 
A question of spin

The Isle Of Man, Guernsey and Jersey are all parts of the UK and under UK Law
No they aren't. That's the whole point. If they were part of the UK (or even just members of the European Economic Area, like Gibraltar is) then there would be no need for them to demonstrate anything to anyone in order for online casino operators based there to advertise in the UK. They are crown dependencies.
None forms part of the United Kingdom, being independently administrated jurisdictions, nor do they form part of the European Union. All three Crown dependencies are members of the British-Irish Council. From 2005, each Crown dependency has a Chief Minister as head of government. However, as they are possessions of the British Crown they are not sovereign nations in their own right, and the power to pass legislation affecting the islands rests ultimately with the British Parliament.


So as a UK resident you can still play on Global Player - located/based in Antigua?:confused:
As the article you quoted makes clear, it's advertising that is being regulated. We can still play where we like.

Moreover, there seems to be some government spin to make this sound like a crackdown of sorts, when it is in fact a liberalisation. I'm unsure of the details, but I believe casino advertising (both online and bricks-and-mortar) has always been strictly controlled (possibly banned on TV and radio). The change that is taking place is that these restrictions are being lifted, but online operators have to be based in a country whose framework of regulations is considered strict enough.

So here is the same news, reported elsewhere, with a completely different spin -
Minister gives gambling websites free rein to advertise in Britain
It [PokerStars] is just one of hundreds of internet gambling groups, unlicensed in the UK, which are to be granted freedom to advertise in Britain under the government's Gambling Act 2005. They will not be regulated here or pay British tax.
 
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oops sorry aboout that Colin is correct, always assumed as part of British Isles was part of UK, Below clears up difference,

Great Britain is the term used for the island containing the contiguous nations¹ of England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is used to distinguish Britain from Brittania Minor, or Brittany, in France. The term "Great Britain" was officially used only after King James I (who was also James VI of Scotland) acceded to the throne of England and Wales in 1603, styling himself King of Great Britain, although legislative union between Scotland and England did not take place until 1707.

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England, Scotland and Wales together with the province of Northern Ireland, form the country officially known as "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" or simply the United Kingdom.
The United Kingdom came into being in 1801 following the Irish Union, although the greater part of Ireland gained independence in 1921 to form the Irish Republic (or Eire). The majority of the people in Northern Ireland have wished to remain part of the U.K., although a minority wish unification with the Irish Republic.
The term "England" is sometimes erroneously used by both natives of England (the English) and those outside our country to refer to the United Kingdom. Natives of the other constituent nations of the U.K. find such usage offensive, so it is best avoided! Although there is no adjective for the "United Kingdom" the term "British" is acceptable, although has to be used with care and sensitivity in Northern Ireland, where one section of the community would be happy being so-described, whereas the other would most definitely regard themselves as "Irish".
The United Kingdom does not include the Isle of Man (which lies between Great Britain and the island of Ireland) and the Channel Islands (which lie off the North coast of France). These are direct dependencies of the British Crown, maintaining their own legislative, monetary and taxation systems. Each have their own parliaments and a Governor, appointed by the Crown.
The British Isles is used more loosely to describe the main island of Great Britain together with its associated islands (including the Isle of Man). It has no legal significance.
The Channel Islands, which include the independent States of Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and Sark, are the only remaining components of the "Duchy of Normandy" which still belong to the British Crown. The United Kingdom (including the Channel Islands, but without the Isle of Man) is a member of the European Union. The Isle of Man maintains free-trade agreements with the EU, but is not a member.
 
Thanks for the history lesson.

I'm gonna ask another dumb American question(s)

1. What currency does the Isle of Man use? Pound or its own?
2. Is the euro accepted for commerce in Great Britian or do you have to convert to Sterling?
3. Do you need a passport to travel from the Isle of Man to the Mainland (Great Britain?)
 
Freds answers

Fred in the spirit of getting to posting no 1 i will answer your 3 questions in seperate posts below :)
 
I'm gonna ask another dumb American question(s)

1. What currency does the Isle of Man use? Pound or its own?
3. Do you need a passport to travel from the Isle of Man to the Mainland (Great Britain?)

Here are some interesting questions and answers from the isle of man website, Which include these:

Q. Where exactly is the 'Isle of Man'? A. The Isle of Man lies in the Irish Sea between Scotland and Ireland. It is about 77 miles northwest of Liverpool, England. Geography
Q. Is it easy to get around the island? A. YES! Whether you bring your vehicle on the boat, rent a car, ride on public buses, or use the vintage transport. The Isle of Man operates much like any place in the UK. Transportation
Q. Does the island have places for Kids? A. Indeed it does. Most of the 'Story of Mann' is designed with kids or families in mind. There are also beaches, pools, and water sports. Cinemas, ten pin bowling, and much more. The island also has an extensive wildlife park. Wildlife Park
Q. Does everyone on the island speak Manx? A. The everyday language of the Isle of Man is British English. Few people speak the native Manx Language. Manx Language
Q. Is the Isle of Man part of the UK? A. No, the Isle of Man is a crown dependency which has its own laws, courts, and government. The Government on the Isle of Man is a parliament called Tynwald. Government
Q. What entertainment is there on the island? A. The island has many pubs, clubs and restaurants as well as a Victorian theatre, casino and arts centre. There is something for everyones tastes available throughout the year.
Q. Are there many options for shopping? A. There is a variety of shopping available on the island, from well known UK high street shops, to local craft, art and woollen shops. Tynwald Mills and Craft Centre
Q. What currency do I need for my visit? A. The Isle of Man uses pound sterling, the same as the UK. It does however print its own notes and coins, which look slightly different to the UK equivalent. Currency from the UK is perfectly acceptable to use on the island.
Q. Do I need my passport to visit the island? A. No. The Isle of Man is part of the common travel area for the UK. So there is no need to carry a passport if you are coming from the travel area of the UK, Republic of Ireland or the Channel Islands. However many airlines do require passengers to show photo ID before boarding the plane.
Q. What is the STD Dialing Code for the Isle of Man? A. That would be 01624.
Q. Can I Send Letters with UK Stamps? A. No. The Isle of Man issues its own stamps and though they may look like or even be priced the same as in the UK, you will need to buy Manx Stamps to send letters from the Island.
Q. Will I be able to bring my caravan to the Island? A. The Isle of Man does not allow trailer caravans on the Island without a permit. Motor Caravans are welcomed.
 
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2. Is the euro accepted for commerce in Great Britian or do you have to convert to Sterling?

Some businesses will accept Euros, but officially is not legal tender in uk,
Below is 2 articles to see the official and unofficial angles to this question, First the official line:


You are not obliged to accept payment in euro – the euro is not legal tender in the UK. Some people think that “not legal tender” means that you are not allowed to accept euro. This is not true. You are free to accept payment in euro if you decide this is best for your business, just as you are free to accept payment in another foreign currency, such as the US Dollar or Japanese Yen.
It is an option for any business to accept payment in euro. This may be particularly valuable if your business provides goods and/or services to visitors from the euro area. Even if you have not yet been asked to accept a payment in euro, you may want to prepare for such requests in future.

Some businesses choose to trade within the UK in euro because they either receive euro income or have regular outgoings in euro. If your business supplies goods and/or services to a UK business that has a euro income stream, you may want to consider accepting payment in euro, particularly if your business has an outlet for that foreign currency.

If a customer offers payment in euro, what should you do? How can you convert prices in
sterling to prices in euro? How should you display prices in euro? Are you and your staff
familiar with euro notes and coins? How should you deal with euro income?
Converting sterling prices to euro prices
As with other foreign currencies, find out the exchange rate between sterling and euro. You can get this information from many places, including the financial pages of newspapers, or your bank. Multiply the sterling price by the exchange rate. (Make sure you are using the rate to convert from sterling to euro, £1 = €x. Some sources print exchange rates in the form €1 = £x.) You may wish to ensure that any additional costs you could incur are reflected.

You may want to consider steps to manage your foreign currency exposure if the exchange rate moves significantly after you have published a price list. You may want to say how long the price list is valid for, and/or say that you reserve the right to adjust published prices if the exchange rate varies by more than a certain percentage.
Pricing in euro
UK businesses that offer products in retail outlets to consumers must show prices in sterling. Retailers may also provide pricing information in foreign currencies provided it is fully transparent – the selling price in foreign currency or exchange rate between sterling and the foreign currency must be clear. If you decide to do this, you should clearly display what currencies you will accept together with any additional handling costs for accepting foreign currency.

Descriptions and explanations of the law on price indications and misleading prices is available on the DTI website at:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/buyingselling/index.html
Giving change in euro
Businesses with low turnover may find it easier to have a separate float of euro notes and coins, as this will allow them to accept and give change in euro. This approach will be more easily understood by customers than mixed currency transactions, ie pounds and euro. The downside is that you will need to consider carefully what you will do with any inflows of coins, as your bank is very unlikely to accept foreign coins due to the cost of repatriation. As with other foreign currency, banks generally only accept euro notes.
Giving change in sterling
Work out the change in euro first, then work out the equivalent amount in sterling. For example, if the price in euro is €4.06, and the customer offers €5, the change will be €0.94. Convert the euro amount into sterling by dividing the euro amount by the exchange rate.
Euro notes and coins
See Factsheet 8 for information on euro notes and coin including details of the security features.
Banking and cash handling
Talk to your bank manager about opening a euro account and the other euro-related services your bank offers. You need to be clear what you will be charged for and whether it would be cost effective to have a euro account.

If you only receive occasional euro payments, it may be better to pay receipts directly into your sterling account. You should be aware that banks will charge exchange costs for each transaction. Check with your bank what the charges will be.

Remember that the bank will convert from euro to sterling using the exchange rate at the time the money reaches your bank account – this could be different from the one you used at the time you accepted the payment, especially if there has been a delay between accepting the payment in euro and paying the euro into the bank.

If you make regular transactions in euro, you may prefer to open a euro bank account. Talk to your bank about the best option for your business.
Cheques and credit card transactions
The length of time a cheque takes to clear depends on the issuing bank, not the currency it is drawn in.

A euro-denominated cheque drawn on a euro account at a UK bank may clear as quickly as a sterling-denominated cheque drawn on a UK bank account. However, cheques drawn on banks in other countries, including euro area countries, must be returned to the original bank for clearing.

This process may take several weeks. Bank charges in excess of those for a cheque issued against a UK bank will apply. Talk to your bank for more information.

Credit card transactions are processed in the same way, whatever the issuing organisation. If a customer from the euro area pays by credit card in the UK, the transaction is in sterling, and the amount will be credited to your business account
in the normal way.

The issuing organisation will later convert the sterling amount to euro, or other currency, at the exchange rate which applies at the time of this conversion, and debit the customer’s credit card account by the relevant amount (plus any charges that apply).
Cross-border euro payments
Under cross-border banking regulations charges levied for certain small value cross-border noncash payments in euro within the EU (€12,500 to 31 December 2005, €50,000 thereafter) must be the same as the charges levied by that institution for corresponding domestic payments in euro. This only applies for transactions in euro and not for corresponding charges for transactions in sterling.
Keeping records of euro transactions
If you issue an invoice in euro for a supply made within the UK, you will have to show the amount of any VAT charged, and the total amount, in sterling.
All tax returns must be completed in sterling, so if you receive taxable income in euro, you must convert to sterling. HM Revenue and Customs accept payment of tax and National Insurance liabilities in euro. See Factsheet 8 for more details
 
The United Kingdom (including the Channel Islands, but without the Isle of Man) is a member of the European Union. The Isle of Man maintains free-trade agreements with the EU, but is not a member.
According to Wikipedia, the Channel Islands are not members of the EU. And, just as with the Isle of Man, if they were members they would also be in the EEA and Alderney would not have needed to 'demonstrate adequate provisions for the protection of children...', which tends to suggest Wikipedia is correct.

1. What currency does the Isle of Man use? Pound or its own?
2. Is the euro accepted for commerce in Great Britian or do you have to convert to Sterling?
3. Do you need a passport to travel from the Isle of Man to the Mainland (Great Britain?)
1. Pound, although they have their own banknotes and coins. (Same for Channel Islands).
2. Some shops will accept Euros, to make things easier for tourists, but there is no requirement that they should.
3. I don't think you need a passport, but I've never actually been. I probably would take mine, just to be on the safe side. :)
 
in reality

And here is what a reporter found when testing retail establishments with
the very question would they take euro's

UPDATED: Euro accepted by UK retailers

On the BBC TV news this morning, a journalist bought a CD from HMV, Oxford Street, London. She bought it with Euro notes. The HMV till coped with the Euro transaction. Ah, but how will a small independent retailer cope, asked the presenter...

Admirably. A camera and hi-fi shop sold a pack of videotapes to the BBC journalist with the minimum of fuss. This independent shop didn't have a Euro-compliant EPoS system but the sales assistant just converted the pound price into Euros and worked the transation into the till manually.

Perhaps bike shops aren't going to be inundated with overseas shoppers able to pay in Euros only but those in tourist areas will certainly have to have a policy on whether or not to accept Euros. For those who quite like cash, bugger the political undercurrents, there's a window sticker you can get which lets shoppers know you're Euro-friendly.

Love it or loathe it, the Euro is now a reality. In effect, yesterday's introduction of the new currency in 12 nations was the greatest financial upheaval in European history.

In 1970, Pierre Werner, the then prime minister of Luxembourg, outlined the first proposals for a Euro-wide "economic and monetary union". Thirty-two years later, Werner got his way.

Only the UK, Denmark and Sweden are sticking to their guns and, for now, keeping their currencies.

However, as the Euro gains in popularity (it's unlikely to nosedive long-term, although there will be start-up glitches and horror stories) there will be increasing pressure for a UK referendum on ditching the pound and jumping into bed with our European neighbours.

The Euro will probably see off the pound by stealth. Europe minister Peter Hain went on record at the weekend saying all UK retailers should accept Euros.

And with 302 million inhabitants of the Eurozone now with Euros in their pockets, and who'll want to spend them wherever they go, it's going to hard for UK retailers, IBDs included, to ignore the Euro.

Suppliers, too, ignore the Euro at their peril. The combination of the internet and the Euro is now making it easy for consumers to compare prices across Europe. No more fiddling with multiple exhange rates: now it's just the pound/dollar price versus the Euro price.

One supplier which is displaying the Euro price alongside pounds sterling is the Goude Design Group.

Simon Goude said:

"We have started to dual price in Euros. Only this morning we had an IBD customer from Guernsey asking us for Euro prices because he gets a lot of customers from France.
His customers are paying in Euros so he wants the option of being supplied
with Euro-priced products."
 
Incidentally

Like Mace says some people will accept the Euro in the UK. I have noticed that a few English bookmakers advertise this option at the racecourses.

The Manx island is a tax haven for many businesses and even though Global Player Casino is based in Antigua, their headquarters are in the Isle of Man.

Andy
 
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What a difference that here in the states. Hey Andy when you come don't EVEN bother trying to spend any sterling here!

Heck I tried to give a cashier a Canadian penny (honest mistake) and they acted like I was a terrorist!

So why does Global Player have their headquarters at the Isle of Man when they're based in Antigua? Will that make them exempt to the advertising ban?
 
Looking Good

Hey Andy when you come don't EVEN bother trying to spend any sterling here!
Fred,

Don’t worry I will be changing my sterling over to your money before I arrive in Seattle.

Given the exchange rate between the pound and dollar I am quid’s in already.

Remind me to buy you a drink in the Iron Horse Casino from my profit.

Andy :D
 
I remember a story from when the Euro was first introduced

Supposedly, a youngster who for some reason was fascinated by the whole idea, bought some Euro notes from the Bureau de Change and took them to a major store that had been advertising that they would accept Euros, just to see if they really would. (I think it was one of the major music chains.)

Evidently the electonic cash registers had not been configured correctly and he was given more in change than his purchase actually cost! He even tried to be honest with them and point out the error, but they would not listen to him. So he went on a spending spree!

One for the 'Is this cheating?' thread. :)
 
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