Double Exposure BJ tournaments

Reachy

Reachy

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I've never played double exposure BJ before but a comment by txtourplayer in my thread about home games gave me pause for thought. Are there any TBJ tournies that use DE? How does it affect the dynamic of the game? What about variance? And is the gap between skilled and unskilled players widened or reduced?

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Reachy
 
Reachy said:
I've never played double exposure BJ before but a comment by txtourplayer in my thread about home games gave me pause for thought. Are there any TBJ tournies that use DE? How does it affect the dynamic of the game? What about variance? And is the gap between skilled and unskilled players widened or reduced?

Cheers

Reachy
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I've only played DE once and NOT in a tourney. Don't know if any tourney's ever tried it.

The problem with DE is that the dealer wins all pushes. The produces such a negative EV that it really isn't worth playing.
 
Less important

EV is much less important in TBJ than cash games since each player has the same EV. In fact could it not be argued that negative EV games favour the more skilled players since wildcat bettors are less likely to be successful?

Cheers

Reachy
 
Wong's book "Professional Blackjack" has some insights for playing Double Exposure. I have not read it because I never have an opportunity to play so why bother. Just letting anyone interested know where to find some info.

As for tournaments, I only heard about one that played Double Exposure. I was planning to attend but other commitments interfered. My opinion is that the seasoned TBJ player with a working knowledge of the ins and outs of Double Exposure has an increased advantage over the ploppies. This is because the ploppy thinks that since he can see both dealer cards then winning should be simplified. Big mistake.
 
What if?

The "dealer wins pushes" rule is designed by the house to get the EV back in their favour. Since this is irrelevant for TBJ why not revert back to standard rules for pushes in this case? Any idea what the EV for a 6 deck, H17, etc, etc, double exposure game is? Does anybody think that there might be upsides for skillful play since there is more "information" available which skilled players can make use of? Just some random thoughts, not well formed in my mind....

Cheers

Reachy
 
Reachy said:
The "dealer wins pushes" rule is designed by the house to get the EV back in their favour. Since this is irrelevant for TBJ why not revert back to standard rules for pushes in this case? ...
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The casino can do whatever they want - and usually do. They own the joint which means it's their "bat & ball" and can make any rule they want.
 
I'm the house now!

I suppose I'm asking a hypothetical question here with respect to the various rule changes. But it shouldn't really matter to the casino what the rules are for the tourney since they don't affect house edge. They get their edge from the rake and side action. The tourney could be single deck 15:1 BJs or 30 deck H17 6:5 BJ; the casino makes the same amount of money so long as the entry fee and vig are the same for both games.

I'm really more interested in the home game I'm having tomorrow night. As a "Skilled" (*laughs to himself*) TBJ player will I have even more of an advantage over my less skilled opponents playing standard rules with the addition of double exposure than I would in a normal 6 deck game?

Cheers

Reachy
 
Reachy said:
I'm really more interested in the home game I'm having tomorrow night. As a "Skilled" (*laughs to himself*) TBJ player will I have even more of an advantage over my less skilled opponents playing standard rules with the addition of double exposure than I would in a normal 6 deck game?
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I think we answered this question. As with any game, if you know the "ins & outs" then you have an advantage over the other players. The more you know, the greater your advantage. Simple as APPLE PIE.

Are these friends you play with? How much do you want to "rip them off" for. Enough for a new car? Hum, don't invite me.
 
BS for DE

Just followed the Wizard of Odds link (Thanks Ken) and the BS table for Double Exposure is substantially bigger than the table for the corresponding Single Exposure game. Would take a bit of memorising :eek:. Imagine what the TSS for it would be like toolman :yikes:

Cheers

Reachy
 
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