Every body left with Zero Chips
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Playoff
Ties are usually decided with a playoff. Each player is given a bankroll and the one with the largest bankroll after about 3 to 5 hands is declared the winner. If they are still tied then it usually becomes "sudden death". This varies from casino to casino but that is the general procedure.
little:
On a separate note, you wrote the following on a different thread about "house rake":
I am just curious. Are you trying to develop a computer game or a brick and mortar casino tournament?
Ties are usually decided with a playoff. Each player is given a bankroll and the one with the largest bankroll after about 3 to 5 hands is declared the winner. If they are still tied then it usually becomes "sudden death". This varies from casino to casino but that is the general procedure.
little:
On a separate note, you wrote the following on a different thread about "house rake":
little said:
I am just curious. Are you trying to develop a computer game or a brick and mortar casino tournament?
Sudden Death
If the players are still tied after the 3 to 5 "tie breaker" hands, then "sudden death" often goes into effect. There are no more required number of hands to play. In sudden death, play continues until one person leads at the end of a hand and then that person is declared the winner.
Sometimes the rules state that if there is a tie after the 3 to 5 "tie breaker" hands, then another 3 to 5 hands are played, and so on. In this format there is no "sudden death". This is an example of another case of setting the rules according to the casino's preference.
little:
Good luck on your endeavor.
If the players are still tied after the 3 to 5 "tie breaker" hands, then "sudden death" often goes into effect. There are no more required number of hands to play. In sudden death, play continues until one person leads at the end of a hand and then that person is declared the winner.
Sometimes the rules state that if there is a tie after the 3 to 5 "tie breaker" hands, then another 3 to 5 hands are played, and so on. In this format there is no "sudden death". This is an example of another case of setting the rules according to the casino's preference.
little:
Good luck on your endeavor.
My recommendation for tiebreakers...
Play a number of hands equal to the number of players involved times 2. If two players are tied, play 4 hands. If 3 players are tied, play 6 hands, etc.
This way, each player in the tiebreaker plays each position twice. Ties don't happen all that often, but this is a good way of making them more fair to all, and less dependent on seat position.
Play a number of hands equal to the number of players involved times 2. If two players are tied, play 4 hands. If 3 players are tied, play 6 hands, etc.
This way, each player in the tiebreaker plays each position twice. Ties don't happen all that often, but this is a good way of making them more fair to all, and less dependent on seat position.
TXtourplayer
Executive Member
That is how I run my tournaments...
I agree, this is the format (or rule) I use in my tournaments. It is the fairest way I know.
One point I'll make (this is for Chips), a playoff involving multiple hands is not "Sudden Death"!
Sudden death would only be if the players play only one hand at a time until the other play/players were eliminated.
I agree, this is the format (or rule) I use in my tournaments. It is the fairest way I know.
One point I'll make (this is for Chips), a playoff involving multiple hands is not "Sudden Death"!
Sudden death would only be if the players play only one hand at a time until the other play/players were eliminated.
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one more question
now every thing has been clear to me,but there left only one thing in my mind if some how players in the final round left with zero chips how we gonna decide winner out of them,do we need to split the tourpool or do it some other way
well thanx for other answers
regards
little
now every thing has been clear to me,but there left only one thing in my mind if some how players in the final round left with zero chips how we gonna decide winner out of them,do we need to split the tourpool or do it some other way
well thanx for other answers
regards
little
Chop?
Generally speaking, if the rules have a sudden death provision it means that the casino will not allow a chop. But, of course, there are exceptions. Assuming there is a sudden death provision and the participating players agree to chop (it must be unanimous) and the casino agrees, then there can be a chop.fgk42 said:
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Chopping
Let's say 1st prize is $10,000 and 2nd is $5,000 and 2 people are tied for first place. Instead of playing a "tie breaker" or "sudden death" (or after a tie breaker if the tie breaker does not decide a single winner), the 2 players agree to split the 1st and 2nd place prize money equally or "chop it". Each would then receive $7,500. Unless there are rules to the contrary, a chop cannot occur unless both players agree to it and the casino also agrees.
A chop occurs in poker a lot more than blackjack. If all the players left at a final poker table agree, all the prize money that would be paid out to those remaining poker players is added together and then distributed equally or "chopped". In poker, the casinos do not oppose this nearly as often as blackjack.
It's best explained by an example.little said:
Let's say 1st prize is $10,000 and 2nd is $5,000 and 2 people are tied for first place. Instead of playing a "tie breaker" or "sudden death" (or after a tie breaker if the tie breaker does not decide a single winner), the 2 players agree to split the 1st and 2nd place prize money equally or "chop it". Each would then receive $7,500. Unless there are rules to the contrary, a chop cannot occur unless both players agree to it and the casino also agrees.
A chop occurs in poker a lot more than blackjack. If all the players left at a final poker table agree, all the prize money that would be paid out to those remaining poker players is added together and then distributed equally or "chopped". In poker, the casinos do not oppose this nearly as often as blackjack.
ProfGlitch
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On Ultimate Bet, if the hands are still tied at the tie breaker, a second tie breaker is had, and each player is restored to 10000 chips. This continues ad infinitum until a tie is no longer had.
Also, casinos that allow chops also allow uneven chops (i.e. 8500/6500 in your example). When I play in poker sit and gos in offline casinos, and I have a 2:1 lead heads-up, I'll usually offer a 430-370 chop (as opposed to 400:400) and the other player will almost always take it.
Also, casinos that allow chops also allow uneven chops (i.e. 8500/6500 in your example). When I play in poker sit and gos in offline casinos, and I have a 2:1 lead heads-up, I'll usually offer a 430-370 chop (as opposed to 400:400) and the other player will almost always take it.