Palms 200,000 UBT Tourney

[Joep]

OK lets look at it this way

UBT 200,000 Tournament at the Palms

now lets look at

Palms 200,000 UBT format Tournament

It pretty clear to me that they are 2 different tournaments,unless of course you are trying to "STIR" the pot once more and this is not meant for you FGK

Joep

 

[Barney Stone]

OK last word from me dont worry Ken LOL

I never twisted your words Joe I posted a fact and the fact was your own title. Prove to me that is twisting your words, no dont because you cant. I never paraphrased or quoted you. Get real.

 

[KenSmith]

OK lets look at it this way

UBT 200,000 Tournament at the Palms

now lets look at

Palms 200,000 UBT format Tournament

It pretty clear to me that they are 2 different tournaments.

Huh? At a glance, those two phrases would seem to be identical to me. The addition of the word "format" doesn't do much to illustrate there is an important difference.

More to the point, this very thread started by JoeP is titled "Palms 200,000 UBT Tourney".

Pretty confusing.

Is any of this important? Not really.

 

[toonces]

This is a different topic than the thread - but since you brought it up:

The 5,000 guaranteed and 25,000 tourney's on Bet21.com

Aren't They eligible for the All-In ranking system?

They are open to all

Both have a 100 entry fee and the accuracy of the results are available for all to see up to two (2) weeks AFTER the events are held.

So Bet21.com events - All In eligible or not?

My understanding is that they are not (as much as I would like them to be). I assume the reason is that people playing online are anonymous and therefore you have a difficulty in tracking these players.

Now, perhaps a simple solution would be to have people register their screen names with All In to be added to the standings. But based on the quasi-legal nature of the internet game, perhaps keeping any official record of these events may be risky.

On the other hand, perhaps we ought to maintain, somehow, an internet-only ranking of the top players on Bet21. If bet21 can't do it and someone sent me the formula, I can look at what it would take to maintain them.

 

[Joep]

Here is why

Currently the All In player ranking system only considers tournaments that are held in land based casinos.The INTERNET is something that was considered but for many reasons including most players other than myself and a few other play under their real names. On top of that players may and could have other players playing for them on the INTERNET this was done often over at Global Player.So to give a player points when there is no guarantee that the player playing that round or tournament is actually the player who account it is. This problem never occurs at a live tournament.Until someone can come up with a solution to these problems the Internet will just have to wait.There is also some states where playing is illegal so that would make the tournament not open to all legally.


Joep

 

[KenSmith]

Good points Joe. Internet ranking would be fun to see, but these are major hurdles.

 

[Phil Dunaway]

Outstanding point fellows, in my state of Indiana,no internet gambling of any kind,including freerolls is legal.The officials here have already made a couple of examples out of people & they are not pretty.

 

[Joep]

I still believe when you would see the following

UBT 200,000 Tournament at the Palms

To me that would indicate the UBT is holding a tournament with a 200,000 prize pool with the Palms casino hosting it

If you were to see

Palms 200,000 UBT Format Tournament

To me that would indicate that the Palms was holding a 200,000 tournament using the UBT format which is totally different than any other format out there.

And that was my sole intention when I posted the results,to make sure everyone knew it was not a scheduled UBT Tour stop event or circuit event that is open to all players.This is the right and privilege that the Palms has acquired by paying the UBT a licensing fee to hold these events for their players only.

Another analogy would be your favorite restaurant is closed on Monday but while driving past it on a Monday you see that the restaurant appears to be open and there are cars in the parking lot.You pull in and expect to be able to dine there,but when you approach the door the signs says closed private party.Should you be upset because the owner of the restaurant decided to host/have a private party.After all it is his right and he pays for the right to have who ever he wants in his restaurant.The Palms was just using a marketing tool that they and only 1 other casino in Las Vegas has the right to use.

Joep

 

[fgk42]

Reruns

Joe,

We heard the restaurant analogy in November on the radio show with Kenny.

Look, I know how words can be twisted, manipulated, confiscated, etc....

Why not simply say this:

200,000 Palms EBJ Tourney?

If it isn't a UBT event why put UBT in the title/line/thread/post?

UBT is a trademark/company that made certain promises.

EBJ is the actual game that is played at the UBT event. EBJ is also played at the Venetian, Barona and in Hollywood's suite :laugh:

As far as the restuarant analogy remember what happened in France when Marie said, let them eat cake?

As a former police officer don't you remember times when there were starving people who didn't just look at the restaurant but wrangled their way in the door or even bust the glass to get a small morsel? :joker:

 

[Rando21]

Thanks Joe...

I understand now....

It would be nice to have rankings for internet....Dont they do it for the poker game?

Even just for fun...

 

[BJFAN4]

spinning,spinning......

So it was wrong for the "Starbust" to have invitational tournaments but it's ok for UBT/Palms. :joker: :joker: :joker:
No big deal anyways, but it's interesting how you and H.D. tell a story.

 

[Joep]

Must be the Cold Canadian Air fogging your glasses

Ahhh my Canadian friend :joker: now you want to compare apples and oranges.My complaint about the Starbust has always been that they had open tournaments and yet even with their open tournaments they had a list of excluded players.Let me remind you the majority of players that made their exclusive excluded list were players who were never even backed off from a blackjack table.As a mater of fact I know 3 players that were rated slot players and they happen to win to much on a slot machine so they were told no more tournaments.Now as far as my case I also was never backed off from a blackjack table yet no tournament for me after I won 100,000 but I made the list. My games of choice at the StarBust were pai-gow,dice,slots. All games with no player advantage whatsoever.

One could come to the conclusion that if you played blackjack at the Starbust and were still allowed to play in their tournaments you might need to take a step back and reevaluate your blackjack play.You either have the "Best Act" on the strip or you game has serious leaks in it.

Where is it that you can somehow find a comparison to the Palms from this is the new mystery of the week.

Here is my current complaint about the Starbust its STILL STANDING


Joep

 

[LeftNut]

Outstanding point fellows, in my state of Indiana,no internet gambling of any kind,including freerolls is legal.The officials here have already made a couple of examples out of people & they are not pretty.

I find this to be stunningly stupid on the part of the State of Indiana, although it doesn't surprise me (I lived there for a couple of years). An online freeroll with no entry fees, nor even requests for personal identification such as S.S. numbers, is no different than a sweepstakes or free drawing such is run by thousands of websites already.